Southie_Owl Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, bigdan2003 said: Pop off to United for more money, then get sent out on loan anyway. Because, let’s be honest, he’ll be no where near their first 11. We’ll get bugger all for him as well. Only one loser here - Sheffield Wednesday. Can’t get excited for him I’m afraid. A sorry saga that could have been avoided by both sides. Spot on I actually feel one reason why the England national team is suffering these days is too many of the best young players go and sign for Arsenal and Chelsea academies and they don’t get the right development they need, as they don’t develop that mental toughness and desire to succeed that they would get playing first team football in the English league. I think these days a lot of them already feel they’ve made it and are happy to just play U23 football, turn up to 1-2 league cup games a season by coming off the bus wearing big headphones and going to Nike sponsored parties in London where Stormzie or the next little mix are hanging out. When you think of the better England teams of the past a lot of the best players started out at “smaller” clubs and worked hard to get into the first team. Then they either got promoted with those teams or earned transfers to bigger clubs. And I suspect even the likes of Scholes and Gerrard had to work hard to earn a place in their first teams, by cleaning boots etc. I think the trouble is these days that young English footballers are handed a celebrity life style. Money and fame, when they need to earn it to develop into a better footballer Think about out how many young players have been on arsenal’s And Chelsea’s books in the last 10 years and how many actually made it into their first team. In fact most just end up dropping down the leagues or going off to play in some obscure foreign league. It will be interesting to see in a couple of seasons where we are and where G Hirst is playing. Edited April 8, 2018 by Southie_Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Sh*t anyway And his Dad is ... Fat Sh*t Never f*cking fit Or summat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Alleged Massive Wednesday fan snubs club to go to Man U and be nowhere near the first team action he craves. Yeah good luck George 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Its great though under our owner that we can produce players good enough for Man Utd , That leave us for peanuts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, Ian_D said: No brainer for him, unlike his dad's no brain decision to not go back then. His dad wanted to go, but we said he was not for sale. This was the days before going on strike or kicking up a stink to get your own way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, folger said: Someone else for Mourinio to blame and abuse. Unequivocally, the biggest w a n k e r in football. Dispise the man! Edited April 8, 2018 by Bouncing Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If the move comes off then it will be good for him and the club. We will get some cash for the time he has spent here and maybe a decent add on mounting to millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlstastic Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Awful prospect. Hirst Jnr scoring for Manure on a regular basis. Neil will need to raise more cash for an even quicker server in order to prevent silicone meltdown.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 minute ago, adelphi1867 said: If the move comes off then it will be good for him and the club. We will get some cash for the time he has spent here and maybe a decent add on mounting to millions. Not sure you can have add ons when a player leaves when his contract expired? we’ll just get one small compensation fee for him being under 21 or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 minute ago, adelphi1867 said: If the move comes off then it will be good for him and the club. We will get some cash for the time he has spent here and maybe a decent add on mounting to millions. if we had given him £20 k a week what he was after got him on a 4 yr contract started scoring sold him after 2 yrs ,Got £10 million been a lot better mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko87 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I couldn't really care less anymore. If he goes, then good luck and if he wants to stay then fantastic. Get over it, it's becoming boring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anus Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Imagine if he decides not to go, he may live to regret that....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Owlstastic said: Awful prospect. Hirst Jnr scoring for Manure on a regular basis WTF,ya don't really believe that do ya ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Might as well play him in first team ,Now he is leaving ,Good bye to him and his dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, jellybean said: the mirror are reporting man utd are going to sign young hirst in the summer. Bothered!... If he doesn't want to stay get rid. Same goes for anyone else...fk em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promble Child Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: if we had given him £20 k a week what he was after got him on a 4 yr contract started scoring sold him after 2 yrs ,Got £10 million been a lot better mate. Life is not as simple as that. These scenarios could have been a result of caving in to his demands... We could have given him 20K a week - what he was allegedly after ?- which could have led to many other players demanding a pay rise as their role is more superior than a youth team player, which we’d have to pay according to your logic (If they want, they should get). With our current financial position, it wouldn’t be a great decision in my opinion. Further to that, it could have turned out that he wasn’t good enough for the Championship and we’re left paying 20K a week for 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, camffiti said: Sh*t anyway And his Dad is ... Fat Sh*t Never f*cking fit Or summat It rhymes right up till the end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clud17 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Maybe if we hadn't spunked millions on players that rarely play or are not effective when they do play we could have offered him a decent contract with the ability to talk to a big club if they came in for him. I think FFP may have got in the way here and something we could learn from now we have a better academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, bigdan2003 said: Pop off to United for more money, then get sent out on loan anyway. Because, let’s be honest, he’ll be no where near their first 11. We’ll get bugger all for him as well. Only one loser here - Sheffield Wednesday. Can’t get excited for him I’m afraid. A sorry saga that could have been avoided by both sides. Agreed, if there's any truth in this story, all it does it conform what a balls ups we made in not recognising his value. I don't like the way his camp have gone about it, but once again Chansiris recruitment policy looks pathetic. Sooner he is out of the door, the better and we can move on. Or move sideways, with the likes of Fletcher and Rhodes on mega bucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, RocastleFan said: Life is not as simple as that. These scenarios could have been a result of caving in to his demands... We could have given him 20K a week - what he was allegedly after ?- which could have led to many other players demanding a pay rise as their role is more superior than a youth team player, which we’d have to pay according to your logic (If they want, they should get). With our current financial position, it wouldn’t be a great decision in my opinion. Further to that, it could have turned out that he wasn’t good enough for the Championship and we’re left paying 20K a week for 4 years? You could be right ,We will see ,if we are getting close too FFP , Could we afford it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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