@owlstalk Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 It's very very clear that there's been a very serious and major issue with player fitness I know we have had injuries and so do you. It's obvious that players haven't been fit But Jos's response to the last journalist in this press conference has got me raging It's clear that the fitness of this squad has been absolutely criminal. Carlos really has left us with an absolute total disaster of a squad fitness wise and Jos was as professional as he could be but his response was about as damning as it could possibly be without saying that Carlos might as well have given the squad an ice-cream and told them all to go for a walk on Scarborough Beach every day instead of any kind of fitness training whatsoever. I'll post the video when it's up on Youtube so you can see for yourselves but I'll be honest I'm absolutely raging about what Carlos has done to our players on the fitness side now. I feel very very sorry for Jos having to sort this mess out and getting stick whilst he's trying to do so. It sounds like the fitness of this squad at a professional football club in the Championship has been neglected by Carlos and his staff about as badly as it could have been. Anyone knocking Jos right now or bigging up Carlos anymore can sod off. After this press conference neither are acceptable options to me. We need to back Jos 100% right now as he cleans up the worst possible mess left behind. Disgraceful If you've not seen the press conference please for the love of god watch it before posting any replies because this is YOUR FOOTBALL CLUB that is in this mess. Yours faithfully Mr Genuinely Livid Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Yeah but he's doing a right good job at Swansea 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I said something similar when we drew with Cardiff away earlier in season, we were in total control for 75 mins then suddenly ran out of gas, players not fit enough for 90 mins football.... Criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, WalthamOwl said: Yeah but he's doing a right good job at Swansea Just wait until they've got a full CC pre-season under their belts 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughthecone Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Agree it's great that Jos is shooting from the hip, about the "fitness regime he inherited " what a load crap he is having to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 How long did Carlos know he was on his way before he actually left.... he'd basically let everything slide for months. The owner was too green to see it but the players knew.. Boyd ie. Not a dig at the owner btw. FFS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Think its quite clear now that Calos was negligent towards players fitness during his time here. 2 things I still don't understand. 1. Was the fitness conditioning and training the same as his first season when it didn't seem a problem. 2. Why didn't the senior players and other coaching staff do anything at all about in not being fit enough. They have to accept some of the blame too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, alanharper said: Just wait until they've got a full CC pre-season under their belts I'm sure Swansea will see what's gone on (and going on) at SWFC and not give Carlos the free reign he seemingly had at Hillsborough. My guess is if Carlos suggests replacing the whole medical team - Swansea will say no My guess is the there will be a strength & conditioning coach very closely monitoring the fitness and fitness regime of the players The relationship between Carlos and Chansiri was clearly all wrong, on many fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Practically every manager says the same thing when he walks into a club 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, gurujuan said: Practically every manager says the same thing when he walks into a club Give over This is a really serious situation It's nothing like when a new manager usually takes over Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamunda Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Did Bullen know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Kalamunda said: Did Bullen know? Dont' know and don't care - not looking to scapegoat Bullen This is purely Carlos leaving Jos the worst possible situation Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 This is probably why Carlos never hangs around at a club for very long. The only time he's ever lasted more than a season at a club, it appears that he completely messes up the squads fitness. I just hope that it's not done any lasting damage to some of our players, Kieran Lee and Sam Hutchinson spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Give over This is a really serious situation It's nothing like when a new manager usually takes over Players didn’t need to be that fit playing the Carlos tippy tappy game last 18 months anyway , what’s the problem ? Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Were the players unfit for CC’s first 2 seasons? Or did it come after a poor run of 10 games in season 3. Easy to to blame someone else when you’re not performing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nldowl Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Or maybe the players were trusted to do their own fitness which they did in the first 2 seasons... then they were trusted to do the same in the third season but didn’t... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Give over This is a really serious situation It's nothing like when a new manager usually takes over Yes, coaches will have different fitness regimes, but as you say, this is different This is about injuries, and that’s not always about training regimes Indeed, many of the players concerned, arrived at the club carrying injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Rogers said: Were the players unfit for CC’s first 2 seasons? Or did it come after a poor run of 10 games in season 3. Easy to to blame someone else when you’re not performing. WOW I take it you've not seen Jos talking today in the Press Conference? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 But why were the players more fit than I've ever seen at Hillsbrough in the first two seasons..Bannan was still seen running around with the ball at 8pm on a Saturday. Very strange whats happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: This is probably why Carlos never hangs around at a club for very long. The only time he's ever lasted more than a season at a club, it appears that he completely messes up the squads fitness. I just hope that it's not done any lasting damage to some of our players, Kieran Lee and Sam Hutchinson spring to mind. I think Hutchinson had some issues prior to playing under CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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