0114 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On paper he looks shrewd. Our biggest problem is our over inflated over paid squad. Playing squad needs a whole refresh to me. Hope Jos can sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottler Owl Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: I miss Barry Glendenning the most, but I get happy hearing Rafa Honigstein on the Jimbo podcast. Same here, I do find I still listen to Football Weekly (the recent one over Christmas where they were clearly drunk was great) as well if I have time though. Also miss Sid Lowe for the Spanish updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottler Owl Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 10 hours ago, RocketOwl said: Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? It's a fair point about the defensive element but I think Carlos was too 1 dimensional, he didn't mix it up anywhere near enough and it does sound like Jos will go with whatever approach is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand owl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Good thread and Honingstein speaks a lot of sense so I immediately felt a little better having read his positive thoughts on the appointment. He doesn’t try to dress things up either on the the totally football/ guardian podcasts so if he didn’t rate Jos then he would certainly say so. Will it be Wagner style success or more of an underwhelming Daniel Farke type appointment? Who knows but I think we should be able to turn the corner now and it will be proved CC squandered a great opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, new zealand owl said: Good thread and Honingstein speaks a lot of sense so I immediately felt a little better having read his positive thoughts on the appointment. He doesn’t try to dress things up either on the the totally football/ guardian podcasts so if he didn’t rate Jos then he would certainly say so. Will it be Wagner style success or more of an underwhelming Daniel Farke type appointment? Who knows but I think we should be able to turn the corner now and it will be proved CC squandered a great opportunity Yep he fell at the final hurdle twice and just couldn't recover, should have gone after hudds but hopefully jos will make up for our suffering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Thought Jos came across well. No idea why Carlos got a mention in there though. He’s in the past. Let the new bloke live without that being dragged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sounds good - although counter attacking football would probably need pace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 We have friends in Krefeld in Germany who support nearby KFC Uerdingen. Jos played for and later managed the club in the lower divisions before moving on the greater things with FC Koln. They were very quick to get in touch once they learned of Jos's appointment and they reckon it's a great appointment and that he'll do very well at Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsideowl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Really pleased to be no special treatment for anyone player. Think we kowtowed to FF demands far too easily start of last season which just stored trouble for later on. Don’t think any manager will come out and say “ of course I’ll have favourites who I won’t drop regardless of performances “. Same as the comments regarding “playing to the squads strengths”. Don’t reckon he’d come out and say “I ain’t got a clue how I’m gonna get this bunch playing how I set my teams up”. Its all words and means booger all. If he gets results that’s all that matters to him and chansiri. Fingers crossed he gets em playing something attractive along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 11 hours ago, RocketOwl said: I remain sceptical. He doesn't look overly charismatic and effectively for those on here scoffing at the notion of Gary Megson, he's effectively a German version by the sounds of his tactual history and what he stands for. I am more concerned then confident. Let's see. Hopefully he will be a great appoitment but as things stand it looks like a huge risk. Megson. Absolute dinosaur and he's not managed for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 11 hours ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: Who would you have chosen? Poyet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Poyet: Why him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Not Jon Newsome said: Megson. Absolute dinosaur and he's not managed for 5 years. Except he did manage in the premier league this season and has 2 promotions from this league under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalagaOwl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, RocketOwl said: Except he did manage in the premier league this season and has 2 promotions from this league under his belt. Wasnt that when the Championship was still called Division 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Except he did manage in the premier league this season... I wonder how many great managers over the years have 'filled in' for a couple of games while his bosses appoint a real manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Bottler Owl said: Just been listening to the latest Totally Football Show podcast and someone had contacted them asking Raphael Honigstein what we should expect from Jos Luhukay. For those who aren’t aware of Honigstein, he’s a German journalist and author who really knows his onions about German (and football in general) football. Of Luhukay he said that it’s a really interesting appointment, that he’s a manager that gets a team to play to it’s strengths, is very pragmatic and comes from the Dutch school of thought of Feyonoord and Rotterdam (rather than Cruyff possession football) of getting the job done and adapting your style to win in whatever way is required. He tends to set teams up to not concede and often focuses on counter attacking football. He finished off saying that it could be a smart move by the club to appoint him. Sounds good to me! Dont you need pace to counter attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: Uhhhh, because Honigstein's watched his teams over the years? I've watched Wednesday for over 50 years but I think a lot wouldn't agree with my views ......he just a bloke with an opinion but because he's a journalist a lot seem to think it's gospel what he or any others for that matter says . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 12 hours ago, RocketOwl said: Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? we cannot knock carlos for not wanting to concede, i would imagine every manager (still in a job) sets up expecting/hoping not to concede. however, carlos was involving too many men and passes in getting the ball from our keeper, to our strikeforce, and this was taking up so much time the opposition was back in it's defensive positions way before we arrived, as if anyone on the opposition side showed for a challenge, it saw the ball go backwards to our defenders, then slowly worked crossfield. using multiple men up in complex buildup play merely means you have less people in position to win the ball, and/or strike at goal once the ball arrives in what should have been the opposition's danger area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, torryowl said: I've watched Wednesday for over 50 years but I think a lot wouldn't agree with my views ......he just a bloke with an opinion but because he's a journalist a lot seem to think it's gospel what he or any others for that matter says . there's more know 'zilch about football' in an average crowd, then there is in journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottler Owl Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, torryowl said: I've watched Wednesday for over 50 years but I think a lot wouldn't agree with my views ......he just a bloke with an opinion but because he's a journalist a lot seem to think it's gospel what he or any others for that matter says . Jeez, I was just trying to shed a bit of light on the guy on the basis that people don't know much about him. If the report about him had have been poor then I'd have still posted the summary but as someone else on here has said Honigstein tells it as he sees it, if someone is crap he'll say so. Maybe we should all sit in (metaphorical) silence on here and wait and see then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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