Bottler Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just been listening to the latest Totally Football Show podcast and someone had contacted them asking Raphael Honigstein what we should expect from Jos Luhukay. For those who aren’t aware of Honigstein, he’s a German journalist and author who really knows his onions about German (and football in general) football. Of Luhukay he said that it’s a really interesting appointment, that he’s a manager that gets a team to play to it’s strengths, is very pragmatic and comes from the Dutch school of thought of Feyonoord and Rotterdam (rather than Cruyff possession football) of getting the job done and adapting your style to win in whatever way is required. He tends to set teams up to not concede and often focuses on counter attacking football. He finished off saying that it could be a smart move by the club to appoint him. Sounds good to me! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I miss Barry Glendenning the most, but I get happy hearing Rafa Honigstein on the Jimbo podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Loved the distinction between the Cruyffian flair school and the Feyenoord win at all cost school in Dutch football. Our Jos subscribes to the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Charlton and Wilkinson were great advocates of playing to the players and team's strengths and let everyone else worry about what damage we could do to them. They didn't do too badly adopting that approach and we were never beaten before a ball was kicked... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfctc1 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Go Jos go let’s have our team back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) From a media expert on German football via Alan Biggs on Twitter - sounds promising. Edited January 8, 2018 by AwokenGiant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Both have mentioned Jos not being stuck/suited to one style of play. Adaptability is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyCroppersHair Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? Surely that's every managers set up to not concede, start from the back etc but under Carlos it seemed to stay at the back, not fussed how many we concede as long as we score one more than the opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Both have mentioned Jos not being stuck/suited to one style of play. Adaptability is key. Van Aken in a back three and Big Dave in the hole behind Hooper and Joao? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? I think the key part is that he has no set style and adapts to win. Win being the key word. Good enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? Did Carlos ever properly ground that no-concede philosophy? I.e., did we ever go on the counter? It always seemed to be the most shallow appropriation of pragmatism. JS is exciting me on the basis of some really good summarizations from those in the know with German football. The experience level is head and shoulders over CC's. Edited January 8, 2018 by Socialist_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Nothing wrong with setting up to lose the trouble with Carlos is that by the time we had got the ball into the final third the opposition had got time to have a coffee and read war and peace before we arrived 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, hugeowl said: Nothing wrong with setting up to lose the trouble with Carlos is that by the time we had got the ball into the final third the opposition had got time to have a coffee and read war and peace before we arrived The Wednesday way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I remain sceptical. He doesn't look overly charismatic and effectively for those on here scoffing at the notion of Gary Megson, he's effectively a German version by the sounds of his tactual history and what he stands for. I am more concerned then confident. Let's see. Hopefully he will be a great appoitment but as things stand it looks like a huge risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpark Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 It helps if you have great players to play on the break like this fella who he had at Hertha in 2014 - some goals like these would be most welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Nothing wrong with setting up to lose the trouble with Carlos is that by the time we had got the ball into the final third the opposition had got time to have a coffee and read war and peace before we arrived I assume you meant to say "Nothing wrong with setting up not to lose". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Likes to play on the counter which plenty of successful teams do, however teams that play that way tend to have some pace... so that’s that plan down the bobar pan. I really like the sound of him though, especially the discipline side of things. He sounds exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Forgive me to go agaisnt the grain here, but after two years of watching Carlos set up to not concede why are we now all getting excited by a manager that's going to do the same? But it sounds like Jos plays to players strengths . If Carlos had done that with Rhodes , the lad would probably have scored 15 already this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: I remain sceptical. He doesn't look overly charismatic and effectively for those on here scoffing at the notion of Gary Megson, he's effectively a German version by the sounds of his tactual history and what he stands for. I am more concerned then confident. Let's see. Hopefully he will be a great appoitment but as things stand it looks like a huge risk. Who would you have chosen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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