mcmigo Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I don't get it. He did absolutely nothing in the rare times he was fit. The stuff about him being our best player and to build a team around him ? Madness. It is like saying build a team around david jones or Liam palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: I don't get it. He did absolutely nothing in the rare times he was fit. The stuff about him being our best player and to build a team around him ? Madness. It is like saying build a team around david jones or Liam palmer. You didn't go to Forest last season. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, mcmigo said: I don't get it. He did absolutely nothing in the rare times he was fit. The stuff about him being our best player and to build a team around him ? Madness. It is like saying build a team around david jones or Liam palmer. Abdi has the talent and ability, we just haven't seen the best of him yet. Maybe we never will but he's proved his quality in the past. It's down to the manager to harness Abdis talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, kevtheowl said: You didn't go to Forest last season. UTO I did. Abdi had an outstanding game. But it stands out because it was his only terrific game for us. He might still shine hopefully, but for whatever reasons, he was poor last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, mcmigo said: I don't get it. He did absolutely nothing in the rare times he was fit. The stuff about him being our best player and to build a team around him ? Madness. It is like saying build a team around david jones or Liam palmer. It's not really is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
island owl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Now he is fully fit could be an outstanding player this season, providing Carlos picks him over Bannan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I hope he gels with the team and we see some coagulated egg Almen Abdi. (Always wanted to use that phrase. One for the science knobs!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoor Owl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Blue and white said: If and its a big if we line up with a 352, then would Forestieri/ Abdi not be better used behind the front 2 and leaving the wing back/ wingers to Reach, Boyd, Wallace and potentially Snodgrass. 3-5-2 is what I'd like to see, I don't think we have the full backs to play a 4-4-2 and create enough chances: Lees, Loovens, Hutchinson / CB in on transfer at the back. Reach, Wallace, Boyd, Hunt, Pudil, and Fox playing deeper on the flanks, churning and helping out in defence Bannan, Hutchinson, Lee, Jones playing deeper in midfield, with Abdi or Forestieri playing further forward and with some license for creativity. Fletcher, Hooper, Winnall, Forestieri, Rhodes as the options available up top. Ideal XI: Forestieri | Hooper Abdi Boyd | Bannan | Hutchinson | Wallace Lees | Loovens | Transfer-CB Westwood Realistically though, it seems we'll be coming out in a 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 16 hours ago, CrosbyKitchens said: A fully fit and on form Abdi is possibly the best player in our squad. if I were CC, if build my team around him. What do you base that on!? One good game against forest or the half a dozen dire ones he had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni8 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, chizumgeorge said: What do you base that on!? One good game against forest or the half a dozen dire ones he had? Erm, because he a class player. He doesnt have a moderate season where he was pretty much injured the large part of it and then everything he did before just gets forgotten. Watford loved him. 'The magician' they called him and most believed he was a better overall player than forestieiri. And thats legit. Im only stating facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) If we get a solid ball playing centre back and add some pace into the team at full back and/or the wing. We will have the less of a need for deep midfielders. He will fit in better and we will see more of Abdi this season. A fit Abdi will be like a new signing and I reckon he will become a key player for us this season. Edited July 5, 2017 by Mr. Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I liked the Abdi signing. He showed glimpses in the final third of how good he is. Is he good enough off the ball in centre mid? No, not the way we play. Is he good enough to be first choice wide? No. So I don't see him being central to our plans. Unless CC changes our entire game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burncross owl10 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 13 hours ago, mcmigo said: I don't get it. He did absolutely nothing in the rare times he was fit. The stuff about him being our best player and to build a team around him ? Madness. It is like saying build a team around david jones or Liam palmer. Look him up on youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkowl Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 hours ago, F. Spiksley said: I hope he gels with the team and we see some coagulated egg Almen Abdi. (Always wanted to use that phrase. One for the science knobs!!!) You've got to be yolking mate,surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) We seem to not see best from a lot of players. They can be the best players at their last club but come to Wednesday and never hit those heights again. It's happened quite a lot over the years. I'm sure abdi is as good as Watford fans say he is. I hope we get to see it. Edited July 5, 2017 by Eightace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Indoor Owl said: 3-5-2 is what I'd like to see, I don't think we have the full backs to play a 4-4-2 and create enough chances: Lees, Loovens, Hutchinson / CB in on transfer at the back. Reach, Wallace, Boyd, Hunt, Pudil, and Fox playing deeper on the flanks, churning and helping out in defence Bannan, Hutchinson, Lee, Jones playing deeper in midfield, with Abdi or Forestieri playing further forward and with some license for creativity. Fletcher, Hooper, Winnall, Forestieri, Rhodes as the options available up top. Ideal XI: Forestieri | Hooper Abdi Boyd | Bannan | Hutchinson | Wallace Lees | Loovens | Transfer-CB Westwood Realistically though, it seems we'll be coming out in a 4-4-2. Westwood 3 cbs New cb Hutch - to carry the ball forward and to play long balls if available. He could even step into midfield to release bannan to go further forward. Key role and he is the perfect player for it. Lees Lwb reach Rwb boyd Both got immense engines to be up and down those flanks all day. Deep lying playmaker - bannan - good engine, good technically. Got an eye for a pass. Attacking mids - abdi and Lee (could Forestieri play as an acm?) Lee could drop back with bannan to shore things up if needed. Hooper and Rhodes up top. Abdi feeding thru balls and Lee running past them both to cause havoc. Plus crosses from our wide men. Easy this management lark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 7 hours ago, benni8 said: Erm, because he a class player. He doesnt have a moderate season where he was pretty much injured the large part of it and then everything he did before just gets forgotten. Watford loved him. 'The magician' they called him and most believed he was a better overall player than forestieiri. And thats legit. Im only stating facts They called him the maestro because he made everything work and everything went through him. He is held in very high regard by Watford fans and they rated him very very highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osowl Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 9 hours ago, Indoor Owl said: 3-5-2 is what I'd like to see, I don't think we have the full backs to play a 4-4-2 and create enough chances: Lees, Loovens, Hutchinson / CB in on transfer at the back. Reach, Wallace, Boyd, Hunt, Pudil, and Fox playing deeper on the flanks, churning and helping out in defence Bannan, Hutchinson, Lee, Jones playing deeper in midfield, with Abdi or Forestieri playing further forward and with some license for creativity. Fletcher, Hooper, Winnall, Forestieri, Rhodes as the options available up top. Ideal XI: Forestieri | Hooper Abdi Boyd | Bannan | Hutchinson | Wallace Lees | Loovens | Transfer-CB Westwood Realistically though, it seems we'll be coming out in a 4-4-2. I think you're underestimating the work involved in changing formation from 4 at the back to three. Further upfield the shape is more reliant on the actual players in terms of their natural positioning game like Hooper vs Rhodes etc. So naturally the shape is more fluid anyway based on who is on the pitch. Changing the base (defrnce) means changing your safety net off the ball, as well as your tactics with it. Going to three at the back would mean accepting some early mistakes / defeats and we really can't afford to give away an early advantage to our rivals. I may be totally off the mark also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Holmowl said: I did. Abdi had an outstanding game. But it stands out because it was his only terrific game for us. He might still shine hopefully, but for whatever reasons, he was poor last season. Poor? Injured, played out of position, snubbed in favour of a CC favourite.... But never poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey_Owl Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Indoor Owl said: 3-5-2 is what I'd like to see, I don't think we have the full backs to play a 4-4-2 and create enough chances: Lees, Loovens, Hutchinson / CB in on transfer at the back. Reach, Wallace, Boyd, Hunt, Pudil, and Fox playing deeper on the flanks, churning and helping out in defence Bannan, Hutchinson, Lee, Jones playing deeper in midfield, with Abdi or Forestieri playing further forward and with some license for creativity. Fletcher, Hooper, Winnall, Forestieri, Rhodes as the options available up top. Ideal XI: Forestieri | Hooper Abdi Boyd | Bannan | Hutchinson | Wallace Lees | Loovens | Transfer-CB Westwood Realistically though, it seems we'll be coming out in a 4-4-2. I think it's asking a lot of a 31 and a 32 year old to be playing wing back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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