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Popular Post alanharper Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 How does it work if they're not "still" fit and proper? In a purely hypothetical scenario where a football club owner is clearly running the club into the ground, let's call this purely hypothetical person Chanphon Dejsiri (any resemblance to any person living or dead is purely coincidental), what can actually be done? Surely if they legally own that business it can't just be taken away from them no matter how badly they're running it. 8 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyQuinnsQuiff Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 First of all…..they’ve got to decide what’s actually ‘Fit & Proper’. Because if it’s what they’re using at the moment, nothing will change. ”So, it seems to us that your regards for human rights is appalling. What can you say to that?”. ”How much money did you say you’d be putting into the club?”. ”F**k me! You passed!!”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, alanharper said: How does it work if they're not "still" fit and proper? In a purely hypothetical scenario where a football club owner is clearly running the club into the ground, let's call this purely hypothetical person Chanphon Dejsiri (any resemblance to any person living or dead is purely coincidental), what can actually be done? Surely if they legally own that business it can't just be taken away from them no matter how badly they're running it. In the article... “The other thing that the regulator is going to do is not just do one-off tests, but to actually do the tests periodically to make sure that people are still fit and proper, and to make sure that they’re honouring their commitments and putting in the funding they promised to put in. And if they don’t then they’ll have the ability to tell them to divest and put in trustees to run the club in the meantime. So they will definitely have powers throughout the process that we don’t currently have." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mogbad Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 Oh the irony. Rick Parry lecturing on fit and proper. 8 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 18 minutes ago, alanharper said: How does it work if they're not "still" fit and proper? In a purely hypothetical scenario where a football club owner is clearly running the club into the ground, let's call this purely hypothetical person Chanphon Dejsiri (any resemblance to any person living or dead is purely coincidental), what can actually be done? Surely if they legally own that business it can't just be taken away from them no matter how badly they're running it. That's what concerns me if you already have these people in charge of clubs what can be done to punish the owner, without punishing the club and fans. Just supposing someone threatened fans by asking them to pay a bill as the owner claims they are skint. There has to be very clear consequences for the owner and in the extreme the club is put into temp ownership with EFL overseeing matter. There has to be real consequences for owners and protection of the clubs fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 53 minutes ago, alanharper said: How does it work if they're not "still" fit and proper? In a purely hypothetical scenario where a football club owner is clearly running the club into the ground, let's call this purely hypothetical person Chanphon Dejsiri (any resemblance to any person living or dead is purely coincidental), what can actually be done? Surely if they legally own that business it can't just be taken away from them no matter how badly they're running it. Who knows but I would’ve thought any owner who goes cap in hand to the fans begging for £2m to pay a tax bill wouldn’t pass the test of ‘still fit a proper’. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 53 minutes ago, bigrbuk said: In the article... “The other thing that the regulator is going to do is not just do one-off tests, but to actually do the tests periodically to make sure that people are still fit and proper, and to make sure that they’re honouring their commitments and putting in the funding they promised to put in. And if they don’t then they’ll have the ability to tell them to divest and put in trustees to run the club in the meantime. So they will definitely have powers throughout the process that we don’t currently have." Trustees like Mrs Chansiri or Paxo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 55 minutes ago, mogbad said: Oh the irony. Rick Parry lecturing on fit and proper. I guess someone had to attack the pundit sooner or later 2 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 D-Trustees 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I guess someone had to attack the pundit sooner or later Not actually attacking the pundit though am I. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 14 hours ago, Big Jack said: That's what concerns me if you already have these people in charge of clubs what can be done to punish the owner, without punishing the club and fans. Just supposing someone threatened fans by asking them to pay a bill as the owner claims they are skint. There has to be very clear consequences for the owner and in the extreme the club is put into temp ownership with EFL overseeing matter. There has to be real consequences for owners and protection of the clubs fans. Lawers dream, they will be rubbing there hands alway to the bank, imagine taking on Manchester City and there 105 charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 hours ago, bigrbuk said: In the article... “The other thing that the regulator is going to do is not just do one-off tests, but to actually do the tests periodically to make sure that people are still fit and proper, and to make sure that they’re honouring their commitments and putting in the funding they promised to put in. And if they don’t then they’ll have the ability to tell them to divest and put in trustees to run the club in the meantime. So they will definitely have powers throughout the process that we don’t currently have." Wonder if the trustees who would take over running the club if chansiri is found to be in breach of not putting the funding in have any say in what happens to the stadium as the club dont own it .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 17 minutes ago, torryowl said: Wonder if the trustees who would take over running the club if chansiri is found to be in breach of not putting the funding in have any say in what happens to the stadium as the club dont own it .... Agree these things are going to get very complicated once an owner like Chansiri is found not to be fit and proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 The PL, FA and EFL are miles from ‘fit and proper’ so the problems are a bit deeper than just owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I just don't where all this is going, other than the fans being the ones who will suffer as per!! An independent regulator/EFL/whoever steps ins and does these tests, concludes that the owner isn't fit and proper. What are the sanctions? What is the next course of action? Who continues to fund the club? It just feels like football has gone too far down the wrong path and we could lose a substantial amount of the football pyramid if we aren't careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, torryowl said: Wonder if the trustees who would take over running the club if chansiri is found to be in breach of not putting the funding in have any say in what happens to the stadium as the club dont own it .... That's an interesting question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Juicy Joe always coming with that good stuff hot off the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynyard Owl Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 20/03/2024 at 06:39, @owlstalk said: I guess someone had to attack the pundit sooner or later 14 hours ago, HarrowbyOwl said: That's an interesting question Where there’s a will there is a way out of a troublesome situation we could appoint an expert who cal allegedly circumvent the rules and financial regulations ladies and gentlemen’ I give you the famous pooch Rosie who managed her own affairs to the benefit of her owner Mr Rednap invest the dough in a doggie trust fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 So in our case, the regulator does his checks and finds the owner has failed and must divest himself and put in a fit and proper person to run the club. This raises several problems immediately. Who decides who that person is? Who pays the bills? What happens to the assets owned by the previous owner? ( Can see a lot of current owners swiftly transferring assets into untouchable third-party companies now). This is going to be an absolute minefield, that might actually stop people buying clubs in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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