sexpistol Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, vulva said: No player is immune from criticism. Players like Bothroyd absolutely deserve it. That said, the lad has played 1 game. In front of a new back 3 that were very suspect. And for at least 2 of those goals he had no chance. Cut him some slack. It’s a long season. He will play a major part. And before people start shouting for Dawson to come back, let’s not forget the abuse he got on here when he was playing. If Dawson had of let the same goals in yesterday, the Owlstalk server would have likely crashed with the meltdown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, 0114 said: He looked better with the ball at his feet than any of our centre backs. I'm not sure I agree as it was only ever passes between him and the centre backs that worked. Once he tried to launch it, it was straight to the opposition or out of play. But there is probably a confirmation bias on my part and I'm probably forgetting some successful distribution. The other thing I noticed is how tight the defenders got whenever Stockdale came out of his area. There were times when the back three were happy to split and pass it about in the backline, with them reasonably spread out. But as soon as Stockdale came out they all bunched closer together and their passes became much shorter and basic. They were worried about the implications of messing it up when Stockdale was out of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Not sure where the criticism comes from I’ve looked again and agree with op. Cut him some slack. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Wasn't a horror show but didn't boss the 6 yard box as well as I'd hoped he would...... especially with the CB's being all at sea with balls played into that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 In goalkeeper terms, he's still actually a young 'un. A few months of training and I think he'll be able to leave his line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 If anyone believes the criticism of Stockdale is harsh lets just consider for a moment what it would have been like if the team shipped 7 goals in two games with Dawson in goal. I think Stockdale is getting off pretty lightly ……..for the moment.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Without question None of those goals can be attributed to him 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Blatter said: If anyone believes the criticism of Stockdale is harsh lets just consider for a moment what it would have been like if the team shipped 7 goals in two games with Dawson in goal. I think Stockdale is getting off pretty lightly ……..for the moment.. The whole back 6 unit deserve criticism for yesterday. Stockdale, or any keeper, will struggle if a team lets 3 point blank headers from close range at goal. The fact Marvin Johnson and Ihiekwe let 3 crosses in from their side is unacceptable. The fact Heneghan and Iorfa couldn't mark their targets in the box when their were only 1 or 2 Portsmouth players to choose from is unacceptable. Stockdale is one cog in that machine. I don't get why him and Iorfa have been singled out on Owlstalk, the whole flipping defence needs to sort it out. Marvin Johnson especially, who's body language is embarrasing sometimes, he just flaps his arms around complaining anf blaming everyone else. It's completely short sighted and narrow minded to focus on Stockdale after 1 league game. He might turn out to be crap but it's one bloody game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: He's clearly been brought in for his feet more than his hands. Sorry this just made me laugh, it makes no sense IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersiggi2 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, 0742 said: 2 things struck me yesterday: 1) very flat footed and poor positionally on all 3 crosses that lead to the goals 2) not vocal enough to organise the back 3, who were crying out for some leadership and direction He needs to lose a stone and gain a voice. Those defenders needed a commanding voice as their positioning was woeful Didn't go yesterday as on holiday, but he was very vocal against Rayo Vallecano. You could hear him shouting from the stands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Maybe, the first goal most keepers would have saved and possibly the second. No real chance with the third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Marvin Johnson especially, who's body language is embarrasing sometimes, he just flaps his arms around complaining anf blaming everyone else. I saw an awful lot of that from him yesterday. Was very disappointing, and his first flap was very early on if I recall? No idea what it's about, but he needs to sort his head out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Marvin Johnson especially, who's body language is embarrasing sometimes, he just flaps his arms around complaining anf blaming everyone else. Yeah, I did notice this. He played quite well, but his attitude was poor. As for Stockdale, it is one game isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Having seen the goals again Iorfa (and all the centre backs to be fair) need to be spending every available hour in training just defending cross after cross after cross and work on actually getting into contact with the strikers. A whole lot of "I'm back here so I must be defending" going on. Like having 3 Adam Reaches man marking yesterday In summary, yes, give Stockdale some slack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBMitchell Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 As I said yesterday I don't blame him for any goals and if not confident you don't leave your line. None of the headers were at him directly. Could he had done better, maybe, maybe not As a keeper one mistake and it's normally a goal, a midfielder makes a mistake and generally the defence is there to save him, a defender and there is the keeper to try and save him I don't think Dawson is the bad keeper he's been made.out in the past, but equally he's really not that good. As above and with the abuse he's had before from our fan base, he's one mistake from being crucified and I'm.not sure he can come back from that One thing I will say is I'm disappointed with the timber Stockdale is carrying and he looks like a keeper from the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imre Varadi Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 He was slow getting down for the first but it was right by the post,he was never gonna save that,i'm not blaming him for any of the goals..however Johnson let him get the crosses in way too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Second half was quite frankly horrific. I was happy enough first half, the back line looked in control, simply basic easy passes and building attacks slowly, Pompey looked really ordinary. something as simple as pompey deciding to cross the ball changed all that, such a basic tactic should be coped with, fair enough one can always get over and cause problems, but EVERY bloody one virtually? Yea..its a worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I just had a rewatch of the goals. None were diabolical keeping. A more agile keeper would probably have got the first but it was still a well placed goal. The other two? I’m not blaming the keeper. The defending was awful and the headers were good. The worst bit of keeping was the Pompey keepers IMO. Shouldn’t be beaten on his near post from there however nicely it was struck. I do agree Stockdale needs to lose some lard and fast. It’s bad he’s come back as fat as he has really. It is a bit unprofessional and disrespectful really. Can’t believe I’ve written that. I’m a right fat cûnt and one to talk 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Rogers Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Sultan_Pepper said: Like having 3 Adam Reaches man marking yesterday Just snort laughed reading that! But so true!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The issue is Darren Moore was a central defender ,So if anything he should at least be able to tell them how to head a ball ,Early days but we need to improve . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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