BridportOwl Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, The coach said: Do you think we will get promoted next season? Did you think we would get promoted this season? For me it’s no and no...what’s your answers? No deflection..just yes or no’s You say deflection, but you still have answered my question about Tuchel. Is he a terrible manger with his wage budget? Last season I didn't think we could go automatic, but I think next season we will go up in the top two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, The coach said: I was telling everybody Sunderland wer the ones to fear when they got Neil in..and I was right...they will 100% go up..he’s been there done it...Dm hasn’t Why dont all managers who have been promoted before always get promoted every season after during their careers then? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Bang on Good season from the chairman last season Another one like that and the right players and it's promotion time A lot of ifs and buts there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, The coach said: People defending Moore all season have said having the biggest budget dosnt guarantee success...so why do we pay players 27k 18k etc...I would like to see us operating under the same budget as roam Shrewsbury etc..we need to cut our cloth and stop making bang average players millionaires Which players are we paying £27k or £18k then. @YesWeCrannhas already said countless times these figures are way off the mark. Can you post a players wageslip to back up your claims. Or is the local Journalist a more reliable source on the wages paid out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Why dont all managers who have been promoted before always get promoted every season after during their careers then? This 100%. Anyway, I think Chansiri has learned a lot during the last ~7 years. As far as "budgeting" goes, there seems to be a belief by some Owlstalkers, that Chansiri saying "there is no budget", means there is an UNLIMITED amount of money to be spent recklessly. I think he meant more that there is no specific amount of available money, specifically allocated for this purpose or that. There is a limit on money to spend, and it will be spent according to Moore's advice, as far as Players go. I'm looking forward to 2022 - 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Owl Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones; Wm Shakespeare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, elyowl1 said: Which players are we paying £27k or £18k then. @YesWeCrannhas already said countless times these figures are way off the mark. Can you post a players wageslip to back up your claims. Or is the local Journalist a more reliable source on the wages paid out. Bannan and Patto...and the entire squad are on massive inflated wages compared to the rest of the division..it needs to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennz Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: You really don't reckon we should have a set budget? After what we've been through under Chansiri's tenure so far, I'd say having a set budget and making damn sure we stick to it from now on would be top of my list of non-negotiables. Too much read into it in my opinion, like he doesn't know about financial restraints after what's happened....he said "I will try my best to support as much as I can."...to me that doesn't say he's about to splash the cash...I get what he means when he says there's no 'set' budget, it doesn't mean it's limitless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 7 hours ago, @owlstalk said: "If we get offers for players that we can't refuse and we believe we can replace them, then we will make a decision," "We have talked about the areas we would like to strengthen," "Our recruitment team works all year round" "We prepared two lists of transfer targets if we stayed in League One or got promoted to the Championship." "Every coach asks me about budgets but I always say there is no set budget," "It depends on what we need. Whatever we need, I will try my best to support as much as I can." ….but from time to time I haven’t been able to and have not been even able to pay our players on time… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 hours ago, room0035 said: The part about the budgets is somewhat worrying how can the club be more sustainable if there is no set budget for its biggest expense. Does not sound to be great management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, The coach said: Bannan and Patto...and the entire squad are on massive inflated wages compared to the rest of the division..it needs to stop Maybe as we are staying down, it will, and maybe some well paid players will be leaving purely on costs grounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Luke said: Did DC tell you that Definitely not the case The club has never made any such announcement and guys on here who went to the Small Claims Court got their money back pronto because the club realised they had to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Can't wait to see the back of him... Set this club back years. Let Moore concentrate on the club. And you hurry up and sell up Chansiri. Chansiri out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Oh Thank you Mr Chansiri..... Oh Thank you.! You're so wonderful Mr Chansiri..... We begin again in leagues one Mr Chansiri... Up to our eyes in debt Mr Chansiri..... don't own our own ground Mr Chansiri.. FFS.... He finally understands that we may have to sell players.... How many years ? And people are thanking him for last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Jennz said: Too much read into it in my opinion, like he doesn't know about financial restraints after what's happened....he said "I will try my best to support as much as I can."...to me that doesn't say he's about to splash the cash...I get what he means when he says there's no 'set' budget, it doesn't mean it's limitless. What does he mean when he says, "I always say there is no set budget", then? Surely there has to be a set amount which we can afford to spend each season without getting ourselves into further trouble with the EFL further down the line, should we get promoted and operate under P&S rules again? If what we can spend without getting ourselves into further bother isn't limitless, then we have a set budget, don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 7 hours ago, The coach said: Bannan and Patto...and the entire squad are on massive inflated wages compared to the rest of the division..it needs to stop Do you have the proof for this? Please post your evidence for your unsubstantiated claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 21, 2022 Author Share Posted May 21, 2022 7 hours ago, The coach said: Bannan and Patto...and the entire squad are on massive inflated wages compared to the rest of the division..it needs to stop Put some numbers on it Tell us what you think each one is on THEN we will listen to you 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: What does he mean when he says, "I always say there is no set budget", then? Surely there has to be a set amount which we can afford to spend each season without getting ourselves into further trouble with the EFL further down the line, should we get promoted and operate under P&S rules again? If what we can spend without getting ourselves into further bother isn't limitless, then we have a set budget, don't we? He will weigh up all the options and if the club will benefit from the deal he will go ahead. You are over analyzing his words he said in a relaxed interview. Stop trying to trip him up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 21, 2022 Author Share Posted May 21, 2022 10 hours ago, The coach said: don’t know what you are gettin at here...my stance all season has been..we have the biggest budget,.we should have gone up...we didn’t...and that’s down to the manager...imo Yes So by YOUR logic it doesn't matter if a club has more finance or parachute payments because (as you've said yourself) you can just change your manager and get promoted with a better one regardless of finances Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Put some numbers on it Tell us what you think each one is on THEN we will listen to you They have no idea. Everyone kicked off about accuracy when Wilder said ‘big hitters on 40 grand a week’, when we had none of them on that much (as the chairman said, albeit we overpaid for a lot!) So why now do people try to bring our players down by telling them what their wages are? Just to suit an argument presumably. There’s no way Bannan was offered £27,000 when we were on the verge of relegation to L1, as our local journos have pointed out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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