Quickly Kevin Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 @BetterCallSaul What has the general reaction been after finishing third and losing to Wycombe. Is there a sense you bottled it and should have made the final? Do fans think playoffs were a failure and you should have got autos. Did silly equalisers cost you or anything like that? Whats the expectations for next season and is the manager popular? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Owlabroad2001 Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 Totally different situation. They are a young attacking team with a small budget who got a red card in the first leg. We are an aged team with a huge budget with basically one big chance at it this season and we blew it because of a massively defensive manager! 8 2 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: Totally different situation. They are a young attacking team with a small budget who got a red card in the first leg. We are an aged team with a huge budget with basically one big chance at it this season and we blew it because of a massively defensive manager! We scored the same amount of goals as them this season. I wouldn't say 78 goals suggests a 'massively defensive manager'. Only three teams scored more goals than us. Edited May 12, 2022 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem 17 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridportOwl Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: We scored the same amount of goals as them this season. I wouldn't say 78 goals suggests a 'massively defensive manager'. Only three teams scored more goals than us. Ha, you can prove anything with facts! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Owlabroad2001 Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: We scored the same amount of goals as them this season. I wouldn't say 78 goals suggests a 'massively defensive manager'. Only three teams scored more goals than us. A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! 4 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Owlabroad2001 Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, BridportOwl said: Ha, you can prove anything with facts! We should score more than them. Bannan and Paterson’s wage is probably the equivalent of all their squad. Moore massively underachieved! 4 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! What exactly do you mean with tinker? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! Most managers 'tinker' or rotate their squad. Especially when they have injury issues as bad as we did this season. 30 players featured for us in the league this season. That's not out of the ordinary - in fact, only eight managers used fewer players than us this season. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: We should score more than them. Bannan and Paterson’s wage is probably the equivalent of all their squad. Moore massively underachieved! Or the massively OVER achieved, What has wages got to do with it any way?., just shows us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mcmigo Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 Given I see a lot of both MKD and wednesday I will try to answer. MKD- performed way ahead of expectations after Martin left for Swansea at the start of the season. They were a genuine pleasure to watch, and could not have done much more. They absolutely battered Wycombe at home and just couldn’t get the second goal. The issue with MKD is that they will now lose the very talented manager to qpr, lose their best two players twine and darling ( I think twine will be a good championship player, darling I can see playing top level football) , so the sense is that next season could be very different and nowhere near as strong. However, the club is run well and the DOF knows his onions but it will be a real restart . us - I have much more optimism for next season. We will keep the manager , and we are out of the transfer ban. That means we can find and bring in good younger players and not rely on older , more injury prone players. With a half decent summer of trading and no nonsense from the chairman , we have every chance next season. 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HopefulOwl Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! DM would have got us up had it not been for injuries.... we were 2 wins off winning the League... A fit Gregory, Windass, Luongo all season would have given us a good start. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fablon Dunlop Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Given I see a lot of both MKD and wednesday I will try to answer. MKD- performed way ahead of expectations after Martin left for Swansea at the start of the season. They were a genuine pleasure to watch, and could not have done much more. They absolutely battered Wycombe at home and just couldn’t get the second goal. The issue with MKD is that they will now lose the very talented manager to qpr, lose their best two players twine and darling ( I think twine will be a good championship player, darling I can see playing top level football) , so the sense is that next season could be very different and nowhere near as strong. However, the club is run well and the DOF knows his onions but it will be a real restart . us - I have much more optimism for next season. We will keep the manager , and we are out of the transfer ban. That means we can find and bring in good younger players and not rely on older , more injury prone players. With a half decent summer of trading and no nonsense from the chairman , we have every chance next season. Totally agree with your points about MK - Parrot will no doubt go back to Spurs and probably go on loan to a champ club. Twine will go for a large fee and end up top championship or Premier League. I find it unlikely they'll replace that quality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daizan10 Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: Totally different situation. They are a young attacking team with a small budget who got a red card in the first leg. We are an aged team with a huge budget with basically one big chance at it this season and we blew it because of a massively defensive manager! Why was he defensive? We were forced back by an incredible press from Sunderland in both legs. When they eased off the press we sent as many players forward as you would expect. We did not sit back and wait for them to come to us. The fact simply do not back up this claim. Before the play offs we were scoring for fun - we have been attacking and fun to watch since January. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! So only three of the managers in the league and only nine managers out of 52 EFL managers are decent, because that is the number of managers will get promotion? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fablon Dunlop Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: We should score more than them. Bannan and Paterson’s wage is probably the equivalent of all their squad. Moore massively underachieved! 51 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! What are your opinions on Partygate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! I don't think he was tinkering we had players that kept picking up injuries forcing changes to team, especially the back 3, on very few occasions we played same back 3 in consecutive games. Also remember that earlier in season we had a lot of new players that needed to settle into Moore's system he wanted to play, unfortunately some of these picked up long term injuries and a few weren't up to it. Likes of Brown being poorest of new recruits. Number of points and goals accumulated suggest to me and many other supporters that Moore is the man and deserves another bash at it. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, Owlabroad2001 said: A decent manager who doesn’t tinker would have got us up. Moore isn’t the man! I love the Moore critics About half say he is inflexible and stubborn The other half say he over tinkers I think this is quite evident that they just dislike the bloke. I appreciate that you are not all the same person and so will have suffering opinions, so I don't really wish to put you all in the same 'box', but one would assume that valid critiques would be consistent. The fact they're not suggest there's a degree of irrationality to it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersiggi2 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: I love the Moore critics About half say he is inflexible and stubborn The other half say he over tinkers I think this is quite evident that they just dislike the bloke. I appreciate that you are not all the same person and so will have suffering opinions, so I don't really wish to put you all in the same 'box', but one would assume that valid critiques would be consistent. The fact they're not suggest there's a degree of irrationality to it. Over tinkers with team selection but inflexible with tactics perhaps? I get your point though. Like the guy behind me on Monday who was calling the ref all sorts for only adding 3 minutes on in the first half......but then having a go at him after they scored for playing too much added time in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: I love the Moore critics About half say he is inflexible and stubborn The other half say he over tinkers I think this is quite evident that they just dislike the bloke. I appreciate that you are not all the same person and so will have suffering opinions, so I don't really wish to put you all in the same 'box', but one would assume that valid critiques would be consistent. The fact they're not suggest there's a degree of irrationality to it. It's more that he was inflexible with his tactics and his favoured players, he tinkered with the rest of the squad to try and make it work when it was the tactics and core players that were the issue. Hence winning more during times when he couldn't pick his favoured side. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: It's more that he was inflexible with his tactics and his favoured players, he tinkered with the rest of the squad to try and make it work when it was the tactics and core players that were the issue. Hence winning more during times when he couldn't pick his favoured side. Your last sentence is pure speculation. You have no way whatsoever of knowing the manager’s alleged favour side. This alone makes your input intellectually bankrupt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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