Guest mrbluesky Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, Blatter said: Don’t think so kilnhurst. Sounds like he’s desperately trying to raise some cash right now. My guess is he’s in danger of another points deduction unless he can scrape together enough cash to pay the December wage bill. Guesswork, be very strange to go about signing NML and then not be able to afford wages would it not It’s just a badly thought out idea, How much influence has the CEO had on it though is my question and is he willing to be interviewed You will get nowt from the owner, he won’t speak to the fans again in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Renew your season ticket by June 30th. 1st July onwards all seats will be released for general sale and may be a little more expensive. Ah, the good old days. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Bazza said: I totally understand and agree with the feelings expressed on this issue so far, but having put my own emotions aside for a minute, I have realised that I last paid anything into the club when paid for my season ticket back in feb 2019. So far this season I have attended 20 home games and 1 away game and I have only paid the away game. (Yes I know in reality I have paid for the home games but the money paid in 2019 has long since gone). My wife has attended 4 games with me all paid for with left over credit and 50% of what i have bought in the shop has been paid for with credit so that’s probably a small loss in the shop or best case they have broke even. Total club income from me this is just about 15 pints of The Wednesday and a couple of bovrils! I have probably spent £80 in Beres and as I have a 100mile round trip to Hillsborough I have probably spent £280 on diesel. I am clearing supporting Beres and the tax man and as much as I dislike the timing of the early bird offer I can clearly see why the club might need a cash injection! Its a good point you make. Its obviously about cash flow. It seems like they have decided that the (fully justified) blowback from fans is the lesser problem. Ultimately though we are using next seasons revenue to pay for this seasons expenses. Its not sustainable and he will eventually need to provide more funds or the games up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 A successful businessman once told us Drink less beer... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Nero said: Its a good point you make. Its obviously about cash flow. It seems like they have decided that the (fully justified) blowback from fans is the lesser problem. Ultimately though we are using next seasons revenue to pay for this seasons expenses. Its not sustainable and he will eventually need to provide more funds or the games up. Correct, if this is a move to cover cash flow problems. Sooner or later we’re going to be asked to pay a year in front every season. I’m still conflicted on whether or not to renew at the lowest price. As it stands the club look like losing someone who has had a ST since 1977. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musingowl Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 That's me out, and my lad, was going to buy one for daughter too. Only got one this year as I had the ticket credit from 2019. I said then this will be my last unless things change drastically behind the scenes, and for the most part, I thought the club had, still a long way off, but genuine attempts to build bridges with supporters seemed to be being made. Then Chansiri comes off of holiday and kills that goodwill dead. Can I afford it upfront now? No. Could I afford finance when it becomes available in a few weeks time and pay an extra £50 or so across the 3 tickets? Yes Will I pay extra on principle? Absolutely chuffin not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Nero said: Its a good point you make. Its obviously about cash flow. It seems like they have decided that the (fully justified) blowback from fans is the lesser problem. Ultimately though we are using next seasons revenue to pay for this seasons expenses. Its not sustainable and he will eventually need to provide more funds or the games up. Personally I think the mistake the club is making is not being upfront. If it’s a cash flow problem just tell us! And if that is the case then open a super early early bird from now until mid December with a small incentive (frozen price less £20 for paying up 2-3 months early) for those that take up the deal. Then open normal early bird in feb at the frozen price. by starting at the frozen price now fans are being forced to decide on whether to get a ST next season or not this week! Personally I am either renewing next week at the frozen price or will attend a dozen games max POTG next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 You are all bad customers. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, Roscoe P. Coltrane said: A successful businessman once told us Drink less beer... Signed: Olly Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I find it worrying why they need the money this early. And on that basis I won’t part with my money. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bazza said: Personally I think the mistake the club is making is not being upfront. If it’s a cash flow problem just tell us! And if that is the case then open a super early early bird from now until mid December with a small incentive (frozen price less £20 for paying up 2-3 months early) for those that take up the deal. Then open normal early bird in feb at the frozen price. by starting at the frozen price now fans are being forced to decide on whether to get a ST next season or not this week! Personally I am either renewing next week at the frozen price or will attend a dozen games max POTG next season. IF there is a cash flow issue then I think airing it in public would be a metaphorical incendiary. Personally I dont mind the pre-christmas incentive though it should probably have better been marketed as such. I would expect another advance purchase offer later at prices marginally higher than this offer. The acid test for me will be how much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: IF there is a cash flow issue then I think airing it in public would be a metaphorical incendiary. Personally I dont mind the pre-christmas incentive though it should probably have better been marketed as such. I would expect another advance purchase offer later at prices marginally higher than this offer. The acid test for me will be how much higher. Giving people the opportunity to buy tickets pre-Christmas is fine. Raising the prices week by week is pretty shabby - with the underlying threat that they could be much higher whenever they next go on sale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Giving people the opportunity to buy tickets pre-Christmas is fine. Raising the prices week by week is pretty shabby - with the underlying threat that they could be much higher whenever they next go on sale. This. The cheapest prices should be held at least until the end of January. I’d also add, a bit more notice would’ve been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, NeonLeon said: Don’t know if it’s been hypothesised already. But the pricing scheme is a great way of clawing back a big chunk of the credits everyone has sat in their accounts. At least 10,000 people likely with £50 or more. That’s 500k you’ve got to lose off next seasons tickets for a start. Set your pricing strategy in a way that backs people into having to wait and pay the higher price, you’ve nullified a big chunk of those credits. It stinks of cynicism. Why doesn’t he just be up front and explain that the club is in a tight spot? He treats us like gullible morons and I’m not giving him the satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Our fans could be paying for 2023 football this month, when the club still hasn't refunded all our fans from 2019 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manwë Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Hopefully the 22/23 kit will be out in time for Christmas too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 What I can’t get my head around here is the club could have said before Black Friday weekend that they were going to do a special Black Friday deal on season tickets so that our fans could get a cracking deal on next seasons tickets as a Christmas gift if they wanted Then released the offer on Black Friday with finance options like the pay monthly and the SWFC Mastercard option Good vibes, goodwill and good sales on the back of the worlds biggest sales event Instead they wait till that ends, wait till the day after the most embarrassing home defeat and put them on sale in an almost blackmail like way and lose the goodwill that the COO has built and created whilst Channers has been away its really staggering when you think about just the absolute basics of this situation and how badly it’s been cocked up Its not that hard this it actually is harder to get it as wrong as Chansiri has here 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: Just waiting for the Chansiri Defence League to start having a pop at the fans organisations now 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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