striker Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 It's another test for DC now. Done ok of late, put Liam Dooley in charge of day to day running, given the manager everything he wanted in terms of backroom staff and player recruitment, got ticket prices right and generally started the season with positive vibes. Importantly, he's also kept his mouth shut and funded the club properly, like a competent owner should. Β On paper, we've got one of the best squads in this league, but not performing on the pitch, results and performances not good enough.Β Β As the only one who can affect change to save our season, what does he do and when does he do it? Β Β 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, striker said: ........given the manager everything he wanted in terms of backroom staff and player recruitment....... Β How do you actually know that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, striker said: It's another test for DC now. Done ok of late, put Liam Dooley in charge of day to day running, given the manager everything he wanted in terms of backroom staff and player recruitment, got ticket prices right and generally started the season with positive vibes. Importantly, he's also kept his mouth shut and funded the club properly, like a competent owner should. Β Β Agreed - I have zero complaints really about the Chairman this last year or soΒ I was hoping we could somehow put together a rag tag of misfits like we have and push on but sadly it's not quite worked on the pitch yet But fair play to the Chairman over the last year - he's been fine 8 Β Owlstalk Shop Β Β Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screen Door Slams Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I`m told that Liam Dooley is doing a decent job , apparently stood up to DC and fought long and hard to get the improved ticket prices. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Β How do you actually know that? Compared to the staff he's been allowed bring in and recruitment compared to previous seasons, Moore has had far more than other recent managers, and seemed pleased with our work in the transfer window.Β Β Considering the squad and staff he has around him, no excusesΒ that the owner hasn't supported Moore.Β 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, striker said: Compared to the staff he's been allowed bring in and recruitment compared to previous seasons, Moore has had far more than other recent managers Β But we needed to recruit a lot of new players this season simply because we let so many go in the summer. Β And wasn't Gary Monk (eventually) allowed to bring his own backroom staff? Β I don't know exactly what DM asked for any more than you do, but I see nothing which suggests he's been treated any more favourably than other recent managers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda800 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 9 hours ago, sherlyegg said: Bypassing the main terminals and other passengers, you can relax in total privacy in your own personal lounge, where check-in and security are taken care of. Β Oh yesΒ you are right ...Β Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcGibbo Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Despite everyone calling this a tough league the standard this year is shocking IMO. Β Ipswich who everyone was saying would romp the league in the summer have less points than we do. LESS POINTS THAN US! It feels like we haven't won or played well in months also. It's an opportunity for DC to get this right. Whether that's backing Moore to bring a free agent in to help with the injury crisis or looking to recruit another manager. We are heading into a really crucial period. If we can scrape some results and get into January in the top 6 then we can have a real go for it. We have the basis of a good side and if we can get Gregory and Windass in the team together there's a real opportunity to kick on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffwed1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Β But we needed to recruit a lot of new players this season simply because we let so many go in the summer. Β And wasn't Gary Monk (eventually) allowed to bring his own backroom staff? Β I don't know exactly what DM asked for any more than you do, but I see nothing which suggests he's been treated any more favourably than other recent managers. he has had a better backing than any of the more recent managers. That cannot be questioned, the proof is in the pudding as they say.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Why wait until xmas.Β 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TodwickOwl Posted November 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2021 Moore hasnβt had a bunch of misfits to play withΒ Β Bloody heβllΒ Β NI keeper in netΒ Β Back four more then capable if not asked to play out from the backΒ Β A luxury in midfield Β Forward line is the only sticking point, weβve missed Windass for goals but weβve had Gregory pretty much all of the year who is an all rounder and a finisher - so thatβs no excuse, we havenβt created enough chances The issue has been out tactics, formation, constant chopping and changing and a resilience to change from playing out - if he was more agile in his approach to how we should play that team should be doing a LOT better.Β 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A47Owl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Spondon Owl said: This is it. He's made out to be a monster but I don't think hes he's Dave Allen type. He's just a bit non streetwise in the football game. Β Genuinely would love to see him turn things around. He's been here 6 years and made loads of mistakes. Surely that's enough time to learn.Β Oh.. we're talking about a man who doesn't believe he ever makes mistakes so he cannot learn from anything he hasn't done.Β Hope that's not seen as a personal attack on DC.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A47Owl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Β How do you actually know that? Exactly what I thought.Β We play on grass not paper.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, sheffwed1 said: he has had a better backing than any of the more recent managers. That cannot be questioned Β Yes, it can be questioned. Β In what way has he had "better backing" specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Β But we needed to recruit a lot of new players this season simply because we let so many go in the summer. Β And wasn't Gary Monk (eventually) allowed to bring his own backroom staff? Β I don't know exactly what DM asked for any more than you do, but I see nothing which suggests he's been treated any more favourably than other recent managers. Of course we don't know the inner discussions.Β But, he's been allowed to bring in a full backroom team, coaches, analysts etc earlier and in greater numbers than Monk, for example. Β Recruitment has also been chalk and cheese compared to previous managers, to say otherwise is inaccurate. Allowed to keep his best players and recruited a lot of players, who on paper, would have improved on our last championship squad.Β Β Moore has had more control and backing than any manager since Carlos (not counting Bruce who wasn't here long enough).Β Β I don't think there is any evidence that Moore has had his hands tied in any way, shape or form. Yes, there will have been budget constraints and EFL restrictions, but has been backed with a squad which was more than good enough for this league and plenty of staff round him to support. Β Β Β Β Β 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Well, he'd be here by now wouldn't he if he was coming to S6? Gone elsewhere on business? Gone on his jolly's with the family? Think the media would be aware if he was coming to Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, striker said: Β Recruitment has also been chalk and cheese compared to previous managers, to say otherwise is inaccurate. Allowed to keep his best players and recruited a lot of players, who on paper, would have improved on our last championship squad.Β Β Β Sorry, but I absolutely have to take issue with that. Β We pretty much broke last seasons squad up. The players he was "allowed to keep" are those who were under contract and couldn't simply be let go. Β The replacements were bargain basement. Frees and loans. Some of those do have Championship experience, but others were surplus to requirements or on the fringes of the first team at their previous or parent clubs. To claim that they are at least as good if not better than the players they replaced really is a bit far fetched IMO. Β As to the backroom staff, I know he was allowed to bring a couple of assistants and subsequently employed a psychologist, but I've seen no evidence at all that he was given or allowed to take on a large team. And absolutely none of us know what he asked for. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 17 hours ago, asteener1867 said: Why is he bringing a radiator/ Β Β New centre half? reΒ signing Reda ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Β Sorry, but I absolutely have to take issue with that. Β We pretty much broke last seasons squad up. The players he was "allowed to keep" are those who were under contract and couldn't simply be let go. Β The replacements were bargain basement. Frees and loans. Some of those do have Championship experience, but others were surplus to requirements or on the fringes of the first team at their previous or parent clubs. To claim that they are at least as good if not better than the players they replaced really is a bit far fetched IMO. Β As to the backroom staff, I know he was allowed to bring a couple of assistants and subsequently employed a psychologist, but I've seen no evidence at all that he was given or allowed to take on a large team. And absolutely none of us know what he asked for. Β You are missing or forgetting a few important points. We didn't "break up" last seasons squad; it was allowed to expire due to a total mismanagement of the players and their contracts. Bannan, Iorfa and Windass all signed new contracts. Did they need to? No, but they did. As for the other players, granted, they are under contract so we don't have to let them go unless we get an asking price, or they are deemed surplus. Β With regards to our bargain basement replacements, we are under an embargo where we can only sign players for free, or on loan. Whilst I've been critical of Moore and his selections and tactics, and more than critical of DC and his attempts at running a club, to say we actually have a squad competing in the top 10 is almost akin to a miracle given the state we were in at the start of the season. It's credit to Moore (and Bannan in some parts) that we have the players that we now have. Β I agree with @strikerΒ in that it certainly appears that Moore has had more control, and more backing, than any manager since CC.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Had Pulis been given the blank piece of paper and budget Moore has enjoyed, we would have walked this league. Letβs not forget that previous managers have in the main inherited someone elseβs players. This summer was a huge opportunity to get it right. Β 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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