sherlyegg Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Minton said: Macclesfield were deducted points last season after the ppg was calculated, there is precedent I'm afraid. It's why the games coming up against fellow relegation candidates are so vital. Not sure but wern't Macclesfield deducted points after the season was abandoned. Efl won an appeal and they copped for another 4pt deduction which relegated them on ppg. Even though there were no more games to play. Not sure its exactly the same as us.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkstar Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 hours ago, morganowl said: and im the opposite ive worked every day since march bar days off . some of us dont work in front of a computer screen 40 hours per week . once that internet goes down you lot have had it . TBH mate, if the internet really does go down we've all had it. Including you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 hours ago, mogbad said: Unfortunately logic, morality & players health & safety aren’t top of the list for our football authorities. Those things aren't even at the top of the list of player's priorities! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Minton said: No we wouldn't, our 6 points comes off *after* the ppg tally. I believe we are currently down if we stopped now. Surely we would? 25 points x 2 = 50-6 = 44 I don’t think Derby, Wycombe or QPR match that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Or... the deduction could only be in proportion to the amount of the season completed: half a season = 3 points deducted etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Or... the deduction could only be in proportion to the amount of the season completed: half a season = 3 points deducted etc. Isn't the simplest way to calculate this: (current ppg x 46) - 6 = ? Am I missing something as to why this wouldn't be the simplest and fairest way of deciding matters should it come to it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Optics and reality are terrible, with 44,000 ! NHS staff off sick with Covid. From mass Xmas parties to Marine meyhem and Mousset making merry while driving a rocket, madness. Footy should sort now as it is greatly helping morale and mental health of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Current government guidance is you must work at home if you can, if you can't go to work. Footballers can't work at home so they should go to work. Government hasn't ordered the closure of none essential businesses so.why shouldn't football continue. Government not want community testing of those that can't work from home and thats what football has been doing all year. If they break the rules l, they should be treat the same if anyone us on here broke the rules. They live in this country and the law should apply fairly and equally to all living in this country. If the FA want to impose further sanctions that's there choice. Until government orders the closure on none essential businesses then why should football continue. Edited January 12, 2021 by jonnyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Current government guidance is you must work at home if you can, if you can't go to work. Footballers can't work at home so they should go to work. Government hasn't ordered the closure of none essential businesses so.why shouldn't football continue. Government not want community testing of those that can't work from home and thats what football has been doing all year. If they break the rules l, they should be treat the same if anyone us on here broke the rules. They live in this country and the law should apply fairly and equally to all living in this country. If the FA want to impose further sanctions that's there choice. Until government orders the closure on none essential businesses then why should football continue. To be fair, those who can't work from home and do go to work, must have Covid safe procedures in place to mitigate risk while in the workplace. Sports is clearly not covid-safe in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Manwë said: To be fair, those who can't work from home and do go to work, must have Covid safe procedures in place to mitigate risk while in the workplace. Sports is clearly not covid-safe in that respect. Thats why they do testing. If football is going to be suspended l, what about Rugby and other elite sports? They only want football suspended because when they break the rules its in the press and because of the money they earn! How many of these people that want football suspended are actually fans? Watching Wednesday is the highlight of my week at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Isn't the simplest way to calculate this: (current ppg x 46) - 6 = ? Am I missing something as to why this wouldn't be the simplest and fairest way of deciding matters should it come to it? Presumably they have to calculate our total points over 46 games, then minus the 6. Then do the ppg? At this moment that’s fairly simple as we’ve had exactly half of the season. We have earned 25 points, times that by 2 to get a full season total, then take the 6 points off to have a total of 44, making 0.897 ppg. Derby are currently 0.863 Wycombe 0.652 Rotherham 0.8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Thats why they do testing. If football is going to be suspended l, what about Rugby and other elite sports? They only want football suspended because when they break the rules its in the press and because of the money they earn! How many of these people that want football suspended are actually fans? Watching Wednesday is the highlight of my week at the moment! Testing doesn't stop someone catching it, it tells someone if they're currently carrying it. If you've got that positive result, it's too late and maybe too late for those immediately around you. I honestly couldn't care about football/rugby/cricket carrying on, it doesn't keep me awake at night. In reality, football is so far from essential then it's ironic that they're allowed to carry on, but fair play to them for pushing it. As for people wanting football suspending being fans or not, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. Most people will have seen rule breakers, genuine rule breakers whether it be at protests, raves, parties etc If a party of 20 people dancing in a private flat is unacceptable in the present circumstances, how is 20+ people with arms and sweat all over each other acceptable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Thats why they do testing. If football is going to be suspended l, what about Rugby and other elite sports? They only want football suspended because when they break the rules its in the press and because of the money they earn! How many of these people that want football suspended are actually fans? Watching Wednesday is the highlight of my week at the moment! My condolences 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Thats why they do testing. If football is going to be suspended l, what about Rugby and other elite sports? They only want football suspended because when they break the rules its in the press and because of the money they earn! How many of these people that want football suspended are actually fans? Watching Wednesday is the highlight of my week at the moment! Rugby has been suspended and a few other sports are looking at breaks as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Presumably they have to calculate our total points over 46 games, then minus the 6. Then do the ppg? At this moment that’s fairly simple as we’ve had exactly half of the season. We have earned 25 points, times that by 2 to get a full season total, then take the 6 points off to have a total of 44, making 0.897 ppg. Derby are currently 0.863 Wycombe 0.652 Rotherham 0.8 Yeah, that's how I assume it would work, otherwise the points deduction would be imposed over fewer games, thereby making it a much harsher punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 As painful as this lockdown and most of the past year has been, there's no point the rest of us being in lockdown while footballers are spreading it everywhere and bringing it home to their families to get sick and spread further. Football needs a month suspension while this gets under control. It happened at the start of the pandemic, so why not now when the situation is arguably worse?? We can all live without footy for a month. It can still be finished off later in the summer likely anyway, just like last year. Makes no sense games continuing at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 And football is rubbish without fans anyway. The sooner we can allow fans the better, and that definately will be faster if we suspend pro sports for a month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, swfc-dan said: As painful as this lockdown and most of the past year has been, there's no point the rest of us being in lockdown while footballers are spreading it everywhere and bringing it home to their families to get sick and spread further. Football needs a month suspension while this gets under control. It happened at the start of the pandemic, so why not now when the situation is arguably worse?? We can all live without footy for a month. It can still be finished off later in the summer likely anyway, just like last year. Makes no sense games continuing at this time. I would vaccinate the players/ club staff in this wave ie next couple of weeks. It is a very small group. We are going to be vaccinating 300k people a day. you could do the whole of professional football in 15 mins on those numbers, then crack on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 The season won't be outright cancelled, there may be a short delay but like last season they will look to complete it and wouldnt make a decision to cancel any of it for a good few months. The Euros, will like last year take a back seat if necessary. Bit of context - the clubs and most elite sport are operating strict safety procedures and testing. Way more advanced than most businesses, some of which still remain open. OK, you've got the odd idiot player that thinks they're above the law. If one thing stops, people want everything to stop without real justification. A bit like playing golf being stopped. You spend all day outside and damned if you all walk in a straight line together for 4 hours next to each other. Safer than going to a supermarket or sitting on a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) At this point its safe to assume if a meteor was due to wipe out civilisation as we know it in a months time, the EFL and PL would rush thought fixtures to get the season over Edited January 12, 2021 by keepitsteel89 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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