beswetherick Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Am sure you’d do the opposite and forfeit a million quid eh? Not if I knew this was likely to be my last job in football for a long time, no. It must be pretty nice to get a whopping great payoff as a reward for being rubbish at your job. You do wonder if that’s the MO of some managers — rock up somewhere for a year, do the bare minimum, get sacked, profit. I hope he’s not on as much as 1m a year as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, 0114 said: I don’t care about the negatives. I try and learn from them Mate - You should do, and you've proven many many many many times.... You don't God help us. Edited October 30, 2020 by quinnssweetshop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, A E Neuman NYowl said: Just seen Monk on Look North and he looked absolutely exhausted and looks like he hasn't slept for a month. I am not a fan of Monk but don't like to see anyone in this state, he needs taking out of the firing line for his own health. I agree with that, I made the same observation earlier this week. He was slimmer and looked much better when he was starting to work with us. It's no wonder though, not the healthiest job around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 His choice to accept and do the job. No sympathy from me. If it’s damaging him then he should be a professional and gracefully back out. Given his level of income over the last few years I doubt he’ll not be able to afford the rest and recuperation. So many managers say they can do the job and then quite obviously can’t ...but only in football is there this level of the benefit of the doubt and second chances. Think of the money ...then anyone tell me they really are foooking that concerned given the circumstances of the majority of the population right now. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 #weloseagain with loser in charge and clueless owner they hired him and backed him after last seasons epic collapse. Same story, carried on into this season already. By the time DC wakes up and gets his head out of the sand it will be too late for any new manager to rescue the season. Even without a points deduction we'd go down with Monk in charge our form ever since last Christmas is relegation form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, briggowl said: Seen nothing in last 2 years that suggests DC is remotely interested Agreed. Its a problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 hours ago, 0114 said: Monk on the challenge “It has been a disappointing week for us for sure and none of us are happy about that. "We get a chance to put it right and that is what we are focused on. We have to dust ourselves down and realise what we have done wrong in the last two games.“ Monk’s apology “I’m not happy with my overall record. I want it to be a lot better than what it has been. Performances were very good up to the Birmingham game. We are very unhappy with the last two performances. We apologise for what happened in the local derby. We get a chance to put it right at the weekend.” Will Monk change formation? “I always look at perspective. I don’t go with emotion. We have faced some disruption in the last three games with players going off with injuries and being sent off. We had a settled defensive line going up to Birmingham and we were producing clean sheets and getting points. Perspective from my point of view is needed. This is not Championship Manager. You don’t just change something because it is off a whim.“ Injury updated “Izzy Brown has trained all week and so has Dom Iorfa. We will have a look at him next week. We don’t know how serious Aden’s injury is. Massimo is still out.” Will he make a change in goal? “I have to make decisions and whatever I feel is right for the team.“ Monk’s message to the fans “I want to try and put in a place they can be proud of. We’ve had a bad week. I’m not overall happy with my record. It is my responsibility. No one wants to make it work more than me.“ Monk on Wycombe “We will get a chance to put it right and that’s where the focus needs to be. We know it’s going to be difficult and tough. We have made steps forward with the culture and we will continue that way. I’ve never had a record like this. I would love for it to be better. This team deserves to be judged on this season. Up until the Birmingham game, everyone was saying it was a positive start. I am encouraging these players to fight back.” Monk on turning things around “We are going to have to fight and look after each other. I’m sure everyone was proud up to the Birmingham game and people were pleased with the progress. We are trying to prepare as hard as we can for the weekend. If we get the next three games right, it’s back to a positive. We know what we are capable of. We have had a bad week and we are hugely disappointed with it. We are not looking too far ahead. Of course, we believe we can do it.” Izzy Brown “He has been back out on the grass for a good 10 days. We are judging it on where he is fitness wise. He has had no problem with it flaring back up and we are hopeful he will be in contention for the weekend.” Monk on team selection “All the way up to Birmingham, we had clean sheets and were defensively solid but we have not had that this week. The performances have been below-par. I will always try and make the right decision for the team.” Perspective “You can’t go through a whole season without having a few bad games but with our situation it is magnified a lot more. The two performances were well below what we are expected. I don’t care about the negatives. I try and learn from them but it is about moving forward and trying to put things right. I am confident in the players and I know they can do it. The belief needs to be there.” Christ he’s deluded.. thinks performances were absolutely fine until after Birmingham when they’ve been dire since last December if not earlier. Also refuses to blame his tactics or formation. Wish it was championship manager because I’d reboot it to the last save before he was appointed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 hours ago, owlmanc said: I don’t think Westwood will play again but there are lots of prem 3rd choice keepers that could come on loan. Having a shaky keeper unsettled the whole back line Having a cack backline didn't help either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: Christ he’s deluded.. thinks performances were absolutely fine until after Birmingham when they’ve been dire since last December if not earlier. Also refuses to blame his tactics or formation. Wish it was championship manager because I’d reboot it to the last save before he was appointed! To be fair to him there had been glimmers of optimism is our first 6 games this season and the points haul wasn't too bad when you consider how many new players there have been to bed in. Most people on here were fairly happy with that start and many were predicting midtable or even better at that stage. I'm not defending him by the way but it's not completely unreasonable for him to suggest the first 6 performances were acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: To be fair to him there had been glimmers of optimism is our first 6 games this season and the points haul wasn't too bad when you consider how many new players there have been to bed in. Most people on here were fairly happy with that start and many were predicting midtable or even better at that stage. I'm not defending him by the way but it's not completely unreasonable for him to suggest the first 6 performances were acceptable. Well it’s not just this season though, results have been poor since Boxing Day. Even if we give him a clean slate for this season, was happy with the 8 points from 6 games but knew this would happen because all of the same signs we saw last season before falling apart were already there. Thats what I mean by the performances being bad.. we didn’t attack teams or create anything in the first 6 games, after the first half in Cardiff. Didn’t score against Watford or Bristol, only scored via an own goal against QPR, only scored from a soft penalty against Birmingham, scored once against Brentford but didn’t threaten for the last hour of the game when you’re at home and losing. No goals against Luton or Rotherham too obviously. Its a pattern we have under him. When the defence holds itself together we pick up an acceptable number of points despite attacking limitations. But it’s not sustainable over a long run of games and inevitably we start making defensive errors, results go, confidence goes. I just didn’t see much grounds for optimism from those first 6 games because it was almost a certainty from those performances that eventually the results would drop off. It’s a carbon copy of last season. A new manager would at least try and score even if the players lack quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, The Night-Owl said: #weloseagain with loser in charge and clueless owner they hired him and backed him after last seasons epic collapse. Same story, carried on into this season already. By the time DC wakes up and gets his head out of the sand it will be too late for any new manager to rescue the season. Even without a points deduction we'd go down with Monk in charge our form ever since last Christmas is relegation form. DC doesn't care, we all would be fools to think that. And yep we would be in 18th place without the points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 If I were manager, when asked what my team was, I’d just tell everyone during the week, including the press. Just set your stall out. That’s my team, we are up for it, let’s see what you’ve got. Turn the tables on the whole charade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, vulva said: If I were manager, when asked what my team was, I’d just tell everyone during the week, including the press. Just set your stall out. That’s my team, we are up for it, let’s see what you’ve got. Turn the tables on the whole charade. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Monk keeps saying they have a chance to put it right this weekend. But even if we win 7-0 at Wycombe, we'll have still managed zero points from the previous 3 games. It won't put it right. If we go down, we'll almost certainly be looking back at those 3 losses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Mourinho did it before a big European game once. It worked. Think it was Real Madrid messing around pretending they had injuries. He just read the team out. It puts a message out. We are confident, this is our best team. It then gets the other team faffing with their selection and tactics. In reality, Wycombe can probably guess who is playing. And whether he picks Borner or Iorfa, for example, won’t impact their tactics. The whole thing is pathetic in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, vulva said: Mourinho did it before a big European game once. It worked. I know Slightly different than a game vs Wycombe Wanderers given the squad we've got Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Given the squad we have and the injuries any manager looking to claw back points before Xmas would go 4-5-1, not play Bannan and Pellupessy together in the middle and make sure the other team don’t score with whatever boring, attritional tactics we can use. Time for some ugly points and Warnock type tactics...that’s what a good manager would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizzit Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 A win against wycombe is not the be all and end all. The next half dozen or so games wont be easy and i doubt we will pick up many points from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Lincs Owl said: Anyone who watched Wycombe v Watford on Sky will know this will be a really hard game. ha ha every game will be hard for this team/squad ,the worst weds team ive ever watched by a mile . wycombe have 1point from 8 games and are massive favourites . remember bolton a when we got well beat after they lost 9 in a row and didnt score in 800 minutes ,the anger towards carlos that day was deafening . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, morganowl said: ha ha every game will be hard for this team/squad ,the worst weds team ive ever watched by a mile . wycombe have 1point from 8 games and are massive favourites . remember bolton a when we got well beat after they lost 9 in a row and didnt score in 800 minutes ,the anger towards carlos that day was deafening . Wycombe are 3/1 with the bookies tomorrow and we’re about evens. So oddly we’re favourites. Definitely looks like good value backing them. Saying that, would be just like us to get a result with Iorfa and maybe Brown back, delay the inevitable then lose again next week anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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