NorthernOwl

Fair enough, I've purposely managed to avoid those so far. I just hold you to a higher standard being one of the best posters on here

My point is its a ridiculous thread to start in the first place. Just because he's not scared to make stupid decisions is hardly a reason to defend him.

Who cares whether the guy has balls or not. Totally irrelevant. The only question worth asking is whether he is the right man for the job or not.

Its all well and good introducing stricter discipline into the squad. But a good man manager gets players to buy into what he's trying to achieve. If he can't motivate and convince the players of his methods and is reduced to freezing them out then he is failing in his job.

I take your point and I might agree if it appeared that Jos had any idea what system he wants to play. He's been here nearly a year and I still have no idea what he's trying to achieve on the pitch. Not sure I'd be all that keen to see him shape the squad.

I suspect you are right but if you compare the starting 11s last night on a player by player basis there isn't much difference quality wise between the two sides. Therefore its hard to escape the conclusion that the main difference between us and them is the quality of the manager.

I agree but it does seem rather harsh to start a critical thread that singles out our star player because he's had one below par performance. It's hard to escape the impression that some posters on here just love any opportunity to stick the boot in.

We hoofed it long at every opportunity so one assumes this was on the instruction of Jos.

We are in a catch 22 position. It's hard to imagine anyone with a positive reputation would come in and take the job if Jos were to be sacked. On the flip side if we stick with Jos he's going to be the man tasked with reshaping the squad at the end of the season when all the out if contract players leave. Do we really want trust him to do this? If I were chansiri I wouldn't make any rash decisions but I would make my priority between now and the end of the season trying to find the right man for the job.

I really hope this doesn't happen. Trusting Jos to reshape the squad would be a big mistake imo.

Yes sure - I was responding to parkowls claims that Jos wasn't able to pick players rather than making the claim myself. I agree with you - I think he's making the decisions himself.

As always good, well thought out points. For me I have no issue with young, promising players being played with a view to the long term. But what I cannot fathom is the logic of having a bench full of youngsters who in some cases have literally never played a first team team in their lives. Asking them to come on and close out a close fought game simply makes no sense. That would be the perfect time to utilise the experience of Hutchinson and Boyd without standing in the way of young players development. And I'm really not sure that chucking entirely inexperienced youngster into such a high pressure situation can really be good for their development.

All this would demonstrate is that Jos agreed to be a yes man when he took the job. We are not just talking about Westwood either but 5 first team players who are being excluded. You have to question what self respecting manager would take a job where the chairman said a significant portion of the squad was unavailable for selection. And not only that but you will be required to lie to both the media and fans about the reasons.

So he's not a yes man but he's happy for the chairman to dictate to him who he can and cannot pick. Right ok

If that's the case then so much for Jos being his own man. I thought he was renowned for not being a yes man when we employed him.