@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, djorkaeff said: Was that the Lucas sale? Not sure to be honest - I can't remember when we sold him Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djorkaeff Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Not sure to be honest - I can't remember when we sold him August 19? we haven’t made any other significant sales. Alarming - it appears not much of a plan to be so last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Anyone else read paragraph 105 and reference to a rent of £3m per season for Hillsborough stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheBoyBeevers Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just finished both docs. As a football fan, not just Wednesday, embarrassing. Looking at that written evidence, we utterly bungled the attempted sale (I mean, regardless of ethics, we fked the logistics) and then the EFL made an even bigger mess of the investigation and the IDC make an absolute mockery out of their attempts to pursue the club for misconduct, basically saying they barely even bothered to investigate the grounds for that charge whatsoever. Shameful all round. I don’t know what’s worse- the embarrassment heaped on SWFC and our own mismanagement, or the downright and sheer incompetence of the people running the game on behalf of fans. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, djorkaeff said: Was that the Lucas sale? No that was the following year. Might have been Jack Hunt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerinako Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 What a farce looking forward to my Tier 10 football next season instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: Anyone else read paragraph 105 and reference to a rent of £3m per season for Hillsborough stadium? Good spot - had missed that Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian joicey Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It reads like a thriller this... Proper good read if you have 20 minutes to spare It's written like a novel *IF* the sale is between mr.c and his wife ... who else has to know ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 So, incompetence from both sides. We are punished with a 12 point deduction. What punishment are the EFL facing ? Just asking in relationship to fairness and equality in the justice system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I think our appeal will be on process rather than detail. The issue of backdating and whether the framework of rules have been applied correctly which they haven’t. But all this shows just how the club under DC doesn’t plan ahead. Or wasn’t until now. This could’ve been a good plan if implemented at the outset and done correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Good spot - had missed that I think that 3m rent didn’t come to pass. The accounts seem to suggest it is rent free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: I think our appeal will be on process rather than detail. The issue of backdating and whether the framework of rules have been applied correctly which they haven’t. But all this shows just how the club under DC doesn’t plan ahead. Or wasn’t until now. This could’ve been a good plan if implemented at the outset and done correctly You mean the sale of the stadium? Clubs only found out about that loophole very late on didnt they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StudentOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 Well, having finished reading that, I've come to three conclusions: 1. The EFL were actively vindictive in their pursuit of us 2. DC, nor any other officials at the club, are at the very least not actively dishonest 3. DC is in no way fit to run a football club 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S W F C Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Can someone summarise please in simple terms? My understanding is that the EFL had agreed that we could include the stadium sale in the accounts but then changed their mind? What have we actually done wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyBeevers Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Bluesteel said: I think our appeal will be on process rather than detail. The issue of backdating and whether the framework of rules have been applied correctly which they haven’t. But all this shows just how the club under DC doesn’t plan ahead. Or wasn’t until now. This could’ve been a good plan if implemented at the outset and done correctly The written report even references that, whilst they won’t comment on the ethics of ground sales in that manner, the EFL accept it is well within the rules and did nor dispute the valuation of Hillsborough. We, exactly as you say, simply munted the transactional execution. which beggars belief when you reflect and every single fan was aware we were going to breach without some sort of extraordinary transactional income during that period. The length of time to get something done seems to be....staggering, for what was essentially a near enough ‘internal’ transaction. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vulva Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 Biggest concern for me is not what has happened, but what happens next. Because unless DC gets some serious football help, and some possible outside backing, we will be here again in no time, without a ground to sell this time. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, S W F C said: Can someone summarise please in simple terms? My understanding is that the EFL had agreed that we could include the stadium sale in the accounts but then changed their mind? What have we actually done wrong? Nothing sppesl in post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Hopefully because of the EFL making a pigs ear of investing us we can either get off on a technicality or at least have the points deduction reduced. Also hope this makes Chansiri buck up his ideas of his running of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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