@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 The explanation for the -12 points being deducted next season is going to be published today Here's the thread to discuss it in More updates and the explanation itself later today... Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 200 pages minimum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I bet Nick De Marco has gone through it with a fine tooth comb whilst baking scones. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 https://twitter.com/domhowson/status/1295286123179184129?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Best off following Dale’s thread, he’ll pick out the key points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Sheffield Wednesday Following June’s Independent Disciplinary Commission, we can now provide the decision on liability and written reasons on the 12-point sanction in respect of the charge relating to the League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules for the three season reporting period ending with Season 2017/18. Decision - EFL v Sheffield Wednesday FC - Decision.pdf Decision on sanction - EFL v Sheffield Wednesday - Decision on Sanction.pdf 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EcclesallOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Appeal confirmed https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2020/august/club-statement/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 The Club was disappointed with some of the decisions of the Disciplinary Commission and respectfully disagrees with both the finding that it was in breach of the P&S rules for the 2017/18 season and the sanction of a 12-point deduction to be applied in the 2020/21 season. It is important to highlight that the Commission did not find that the sale of the stadium was itself prohibited by the P&S rules, nor that the Club acted anything other than in the utmost good faith with respect to that transaction. The Club had been assured by the EFL that the stadium sale could be included in its 2017/18 P&S returns and relied on those assurances. Having discussed the transaction with the EFL, the EFL having approved it and the Club’s auditors having signed off on it, the Club believed, and continues to believe, it was acting properly and in accordance with the rules. It is disappointing, in those circumstances, that the Commission went on to find the Club was nevertheless in breach of Charge 1. The Club is pleased that Charge 2, which alleged that the Club had deliberately concealed certain matters from the EFL, was dismissed and that it was accepted that the Club acted openly and honestly in its dealings with the EFL. The Club further notes the Disciplinary Commission’s findings that this was a serious allegation that is not to be made lightly and an opportunity should have been afforded to the individuals involved to explain their position before the charge was brought. The Club welcomes the Disciplinary Commission’s suggestion that the EFL should have exercised its power to investigate under Regulations 82.2/3/4 as being a fairer approach rather than to bring the allegations without further investigation. Despite the EFL’s “sanctioning guidelines” (which it is not accepted apply in this case) providing for any points deduction sanction to take effect in the year following the breach (which in the Club’s case would have been the 2018/19 season when it finished 24 points clear of the relegation zone) and other mitigating factors, the Commission imposed the maximum 12-point deduction for next season. The EFL sought to have the sanction imposed in the 2019/20 season that has just concluded, which would have seen the Club relegated, in stark contrast to the position it adopted in the Derby County disciplinary proceedings where it was content for any sanction to be imposed next season because Derby would not be relegated. The Club is pleased the Commission rejected such an inconsistent approach to sanctioning by the EFL. Given the findings in respect of Charge 1 and the sanction imposed, the Club shall be appealing the Decision to an EFL League Arbitration Panel, both against the finding with respect to Charge 1 and the sanction. The Club believes its grounds of appeal to be strong. The Club will continue to take all appropriate steps to protect its interests, for the benefit of the Club and its supporters, and looks forward to the appeal being heard by the League Arbitration Panel at the earliest opportunity. While the Club does not set the timetable for the hearing of the appeal it considers it likely that it will take place in autumn 2020. The Club will make no further comment until the outcome of the appeal is known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: Well that’s the Chansiri way, you can do it but in the right way, he didn’t . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post striker Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: Appeal confirmed https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2020/august/club-statement/ Go on Dejphon, do 'em son. Someone has to stand up to the EFL. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: So you can sell your stadium, but you have to do it right. SHOCKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Interesting document, but doesn't read as explosively as some journalists have made out. At most it intimates that the EFL jumped the gun in accusing DC etc of misleading them. I'm failing to see any conspiracy, just incompetence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The explanation for the -12 points being deducted next season is going to be published today Here's the thread to discuss it in More updates and the explanation itself later today... Why was the Guardian thread pulled last night mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) Just read all 41 pages......... We will successfully appeal. Not because we weren’t riding close to the wind but because the EFL have bungled and bludgeoned their way through the process. With any luck, we will win and as a direct result the EFL will be forced to restructure from the top down. Edited August 17, 2020 by Morepork 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko1992 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 INTA EM WENZDAIII 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Interesting that we are appealing. Obviously they can’t deduct points for last season now so we are safe. But can’t see us getting rid of the points deduction just because it wasn’t done years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Wow - just reading this account of the proceedings/hearing Really interesting read and tells a great story of how we were up against the deadline to do something to not breach P&S including the fact we had to sell players before midnight not to breach!! https://www.efl.com/siteassets/image/201920/1920-judgements/efl-v-sheffield-wednesday-fc---decision.pdf Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manwë Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 "Chairman, I will only say that I don't feel comfortable signing a contract that is backdated" - KM I've read part of it (I'm travelling). We did not have the sale of Hillsborough lined up in 2018, it's pretty clear we needed to have, but we didn't and were scratching around for ways to present that we did. I'll read the rest later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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