Breaking news. SWFC v EFL

[Guest Jack the Hat]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12413633/efl-relegate-wednesday-bungled-charlton/

[TrickyTrev]

So they wanted ideally to take points off of us this season but left it so late they had to do it next season instead?

 

I think we already knew this, the only news in this article is that the written reasons are due on Monday which’ll mean we get a timescale for any potential appeal.

[TrickyTrev]

Ignore my last post, I’d just skim read it and missed the point.

[wellbeaten-the-owl]

2 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said:

So they wanted ideally to take points off of us this season but left it so late they had to do it next season instead?

 

I think we already knew this, the only news in this article is that the written reasons are due on Monday which’ll mean we get a timescale for any potential appeal.

Timeline appears to be:

 

Should of punished club in 2018/19 but EFL chose to purposely wait because 12 points then wouldn't have relegated club.

 

Last year club doing well in league so instead of simply going for FFP punishment went for 21points.

 

When directors charges dropped messed up plan so didn't chase it as we were heading for good league position so again 12points wouldn't have got what they wanted.

 

After out form fell off a cliff and we fell like a stone the expedited hearing to June to send us down with 12points.

 

Report will be interesting to read at least and sounds like EFL were indeed after making an example out of SWFC and were only interested in send club to league 1

[TrickyTrev]

2 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said:

Timeline appears to be:

 

Should of punished club in 2018/19 but EFL chose to purposely wait because 12 points then wouldn't have relegated club.

 

Last year club doing well in league so instead of simply going for FFP punishment went for 21points.

 

When directors charges dropped messed up plan so didn't chase it as we were heading for good league position so again 12points wouldn't have got what they wanted.

 

After out form fell off a cliff and we fell like a stone the expedited hearing to June to send us down with 12points.

 

Report will be interesting to read at least and sounds like EFL were indeed after making an example out of SWFC and were only interested in send club to league 1

I think you’re bang on there and surely the club have grounds to appeal as the punishment should’ve come in 18/19.

[cowl]

Who the f*ck do the EFL think they are?

 

There are three clubs that get monstrous amounts of money for having the honour of being amongst the three sh*test clubs in the Prem - and incredibly, not only do they get that money, but they get it a proportion of it for another two seasons after that.

 

So in any one season a Championship club like ourselves is up against potentially 9 of the other 23 teams in the division that have this cash injection few other teams at this level could ever hope to replicate in any way.

 

So, make arbitrary rules that essentially forbids competing with such teams and then come down like a ton of brick when these other teams deign to have the ambition to spend similarly to them.

 

The parachute money is killing the game. And yet the parachute money is essential to ensure the gap between the money in the Prem and the money in the Championship is bridgeable. This is where the problem is. Nowhere else.

 

Either the sport imposes an enforced (and huge) reduction in the value of contracts of players getting relegated with Prem teams (if it legally can) (and thus rendering parachute payments unnecessary), or it dies. It can't go on like this. In fact, I don't want it to even if it could somehow financially sustain it (which, in any case, seems unlikely). It's grubby, and I'm just sick of it. I want nothing more than to get back to the football on the pitch. God knows I can cope with our failures on the pitch, but this constant background noise of financial rules being breached is sapping the life and force from the essence of the sport.

[snaykz]

Certainly seems to give some credibility to the idea that the EFL has an agenda against our club. Disgusting from the EFL. 
 

They didn’t just want us to get the standard punishment at the time we should have received it. Instead, they delayed the hearing and actively tried to relegate us. I can’t think of any other club who’s breached FFP that they’ve treated this way. 
 

Absolutely fuming.

[OwlBiSeeinThi]

Thing is, of all owners in the championship I think Chansiri has the balls to take them on over this. It may backfire on the EFL if he does.

[Guest wilyfox]

It's interesting because @owlstalk hammered anyone suggesting the EFL had an agenda against Wednesday, and this article implies that was indeed the case.

 

Oops Neil 

[Morepork]

Despite that being in the Sun I’d wager that is the most accurate assessment to date of what actually transpired.

 

If indeed, they do believe we should have been punished the season before last we should appeal.

 

I long for the time when the football seasons finished without legal actions left, right and centre......over regulation at its worst has lead to this. That and incompetent institutions! 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Morepork

[CalmJimmers]

So, my understanding from that is, the EFL has tried to do a member in as much as they can, by being as punitive as they can, whilst hitting us with sort of embargoes, sort of OK with the stadium sale, sort of angry with our directors. 

 

I'm usually for accepting when we have farked up, and panning us when we do something stupid. But what the hell is all this about. They want clubs to be profitable and sustainable, so have waited for the moment that they think could most hit our profits and sustainability. 

 

What an absolute joke from start to finish, and will keep rumbling on. If what is said is true in that article I'd be seriously questioning if the EFL are fit for purpose. 

 

The whole FFP era has been nothing short of embarrassing. Fair play but keep parachute payments, and do it over three years. Soon as a club hits the Prem then powerless unless they come back down. One club in the EFL has gone out of business, one has struggled to put players out so has been chucked out, few more gone into admin. 

 

What a joke of an organisation. 

[NeonLeon]

Shows their incompetence that even when our form since Christmas handed them what they wanted on a plate, they still messed it up.

 

Its a shame for Charlton that their club is an absolute shambles because they definitely need to be taking the EFL to task over this. 

[NeonLeon]

2 minutes ago, Morepork said:

Despite that being in the Sun I’d wager that is the most accurate assessment to date of what actually transpired.

All this will be is the inevitable leak from the disciplinary panel findings. It would’ve been public eventually but I’d guess the EFL were hoping that they could hold the tide back long enough that nothing could be done.

[cardiffowl06]

This is explosive.

 

Get the appeal in. F**k the EFL.

[cowl]

2 minutes ago, wilyfox said:

It's interesting because @owlstalk hammered anyone suggesting the EFL had an agenda against Wednesday, and this article implies that was indeed the case.

 

Oops Neil 

 

I know you're saying this tongue in cheek, but I doubt it's personal with the EFL.

 

For them it's the principle. They have their rules (which seem to change every other year) and they want to be seen to enforce them - and do so without any further consideration as to whether the rules are even reasonable.

 

Actually, it's not just that they have their rules - they know they're ultimately nothing without their rules, and most importantly for them, imposing them.

 

They're ridiculously out of touch though - it's like their spitting feathers over a rule being breached - a rule which might otherwise seem reasonable, like prohibiting the slamming of doors behind you, without realising it's because the whole house is burning.

[bobness]

If it's true that the punishment should've been handed out in 2018/19 season it makes Charlton's case even weaker. 

 

Not sure why anyone feels bad for Charlton, who were relegated on account of how they performed this season. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

[CrosbyKitchens]

We should also be playing the racism card. They wouldn't treat Steve Gibson like this, I wonder what the difference is???

[Socialist_Owl]

Meh, sounds like some made up tosh printed to infuriate and drive clickthrus.  Doubt it.

[mildatheart67]

What's even more worrying  to overspend by £18m , that's near 50 percent higher than the cut off.Utterly reckless.

 

Course they ineptness of the governing body sets plenty of precident's for future clubs chancing thier arm to escape.

 

 

 

[Rogers]

Charlton should be chasing the EFL, we didn’t hold everything up. (Or did we)