Ian Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: The proof is in the picture I'm afraid and having been in far more hairy situations than what occurred in Barnsley that day there is no defense for the officer striking a red area. As you have said there could be extenuating circumstances but none of those warrant an officer charging in from 50 yards and striking a red area. The proof is in the picture really and thats why we dont let individuals make off the cuff decisions on things like this....there are thousands of pictures on the web showing how just seeing the same picture from a different angle tells a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, LiamAP22D said: the policeman might though And he might not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, LiamAP22D said: 'Can I have your knife please mister' doesn't normally work i'm afraid. My point is we can all watch a 10 second video or more recently a 9 minute one and find someone guilty by media without knowing the context of what happened. Why do you keep going on about knives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Maybe there's more to this and the lad had a knife or a sword or a bombvest on? 5 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettleForADraw Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Whoosh Boot licker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, markowl said: Why do you keep going on about knives? Because such a thing would warrant such force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: Because such a thing would warrant such force. It would also warrant an arrest for the young lad if he was carrying one, he wasn't arrested or charged, but he was hit on the head with a baton. That's what we know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: Because such a thing would warrant such force. No it wouldn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, SettleForADraw said: Boot licker Is it my fault you don't understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: No it wouldn't what would you do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOwl Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 From what I've seen on the video, the copper was bang out of order. No verbal warning, just rushed in and used brute force with a blunt instrument to the head, very very dangerous and could have easily resulted in death. From personal experience, coppers are way too arrogant and see themselves above the law. Hopefully the full facts get heard and the right result returned. Sadly, we have all seen cases where the authorities stick together. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: Because such a thing would warrant such force. At the risk of repeating myself, you don't know whether he had a knife, but you're saying the copper had every right to cave the lad's head in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: what would you do then? What I would do is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 If I were the copper I'd just say "I was certain he was carrying a grenade launcher and was about to use it" Sorted 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, LiamAP22D said: 'Can I have your knife please mister' doesn't normally work i'm afraid. My point is we can all watch a 10 second video or more recently a 9 minute one and find someone guilty by media without knowing the context of what happened. Your point is invalid though because at no stage has it been even alleged that the lad had a weapon What context with the facts that are known would lead you to believe that the lad deserved batonning over the head ? please tell me i'd be fascinated to know THE FACTS THAT BELIEVE I KNOW FROM FOLLOWING THE CASE 1. Its alleged that the lad previous to the video when he's assaulted was involved in scuffles and ten men fighting with Barnsley Fans - Not a reason to baton him even if the Copper had witnessed it unless you believe that Coppers can take retributive actions against 16 year olds 2.The Lad is alleged to have been mouthing off at Barnsley Fans who i'm certain weren't replying and were shocked and perturbed at being gobbed at - still not a reason to be batonned . Unless you know of ( and that means know of not what if he had a...................) anything else that pertains tell us please tell us A Coppers job is de-escalate a situation, not easy to do, but that's what they sign up for and that's what they are trained to do, allegedly, Sampson did none of that and because he is a Warrented Officer with powers given to him that ordinary citizens don't have his behaviour is, quite rightly, held to a higher standard . He behaved like a thug and imo was out of control, his fellow officers didn't help either . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, LiamAP22D said: Because such a thing would warrant such force. And if there was anything in this case showing that the lad had a knife then maybe and its still maybe Sampson could have used the force he did but there wasn't and isn't any evidence that i've seen that a weapon was involved at any stage and when he was hit the kid certainly wasn't brandishing a knife so Sampson had no grounds to whack him over the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 hours ago, RichieB said: If the kid would have had any sort of weapon he'd have been arrested, charged, and blamed quicker than I can finish this sentence. Turns out he wasn't arrested, he wasn't charged with anything so... Police are bent as fuuck, one rule for them, another for us. We all know the copper will keep his job, won't be convicted of anything, and it'll all be swept under the good old SYP rug. How big is the rug and the broom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megsonstheman Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 06/08/2020 at 16:41, LiamAP22D said: You can have a go fella, yeah it looked excessive but how do you know the kid hadn't threatened someone with a knife? you have to make a quick decision sometimes otherwise it could cost you. Bed wetters like you probably were on jury service when the 3 gypsies were convicted of manslaughter for killing a policeman instead of murder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Maybe there's more to this and the lad had a knife or a sword or a bombvest on? Unfortunately some people do carry & use swords 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Unfortunately some people do carry & use swords Arthur King used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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