Manwë Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4pm tonight, the Wigan case will be announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Going to get very messy! Plus the administrators at Wigan reckon they have won their appeal against a 12 point deduction. source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, cardiffowl06 said: Charlton gathering support for their position is rather classless. They, as a third party, with no clear right to appeal a decision of the independent panel, should be respecting the league's disciplinary procedures that have found us guilty and imposed the sanction as they saw fit. No fan should want this to turn into a legal bun-fight further than what it has been. It'll only ruin the game further. They have every right to appeal. There’s no reason we should have been any different to Birmingham in terms of when the points deduction came into effect. The season doesn’t finish until tonight so the can feel rightly aggrieved. Wigan is different because the rules clearly state administration incurs a 12 point penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Going to get very messy! Plus the administrators at Wigan reckon they have won their appeal against a 12 point deduction. If this is true then it makes our punishment look even harsher. A club overspending and breaking rules designed to prevent administration getting a bigger points deduction than one screwing its creditors cannot be justified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, Swiss Toni said: They have every right to appeal. There’s no reason we should have been any different to Birmingham in terms of when the points deduction came into effect. The season doesn’t finish until tonight so the can feel rightly aggrieved. Wigan is different because the rules clearly state administration incurs a 12 point penalty. Do they? Where is this in the leagues rules? Again, third party appeal is not a universal right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: So we are saying Charlton can’t appeal for us to have points deducted this season but they can sue the EFL? They certainly can't appeal the independent panels decision. For me their only recourse would be to sue the EFL for not applying their P&S rules correctly in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Surely Wigan aren’t going to get away with going in to admin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Peter Harding @PHardingSport A sad day for #WAFC as their appeal against their 12 point deduction is set to be rejected. Their only saving grace could be that the deduction will be applied at the start of next season. #WiganAthletic not sure who this guy is that would be brilliant for us Edited August 4, 2020 by modboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) It's the EFL's fault for taking such a long time over the case. Should've been sorted before the restart then nobody would have had anything to complain about. Now everyone's in no-man's land. Not good for anybody. Should've been sorted on the pitch not the courts. Everyone should have had all the matches post-lockdown to play themselves out of relegation knowing how many points they needed. Edited August 4, 2020 by Pulcinella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kanye West said: Our charge made no difference to Charlton. Clutching at straws because they weren’t good enough to stay up, awful club. Probably should by looking at their star striker downing tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, cardiffowl06 said: Do they? Where is this in the leagues rules? Again, third party appeal is not a universal right. The rules aren’t consistent for one. They have every right to challenge the EFL on that, regardless of if an independent commission handed down the actual punishment. The EFL need to be more transparent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, cardiffowl06 said: If this is true then it makes our punishment look even harsher. A club overspending and breaking rules designed to prevent administration getting a bigger points deduction than one screwing its creditors cannot be justified. They didn’t they were conned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Swiss Toni said: They have every right to appeal. There’s no reason we should have been any different to Birmingham in terms of when the points deduction came into effect. The season doesn’t finish until tonight so the can feel rightly aggrieved. Wigan is different because the rules clearly state administration incurs a 12 point penalty. No they don't, the only parties that can appeal the Independent Disciplinary Panel decision is the EFL & SWFC. They could try suing the EFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, modboy said: Peter Harding @PHardingSport A sad day for #WAFC as their appeal against their 12 point deduction is set to be rejected. Their only saving grace could be that the deduction will be applied at the start of next season. #WiganAthletic not sure who this guy is that would be brilliant for us Which would relegate Barnsley. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Would love Barnsley to be relegated though Edited August 4, 2020 by WalthamOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 How can they sue the efl, they didn't dish out the punishment or when applied? They are in a no win situation imo, we will just appeal then into next season. Maybe December before the outcome. I expect us to appeal regardless of others actions, prob at the last possible moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Swiss Toni said: The rules aren’t consistent for one. They have every right to challenge the EFL on that, regardless of if an independent commission handed down the actual punishment. The EFL need to be more transparent. Again, they don't. They are a member of the league and bound by the rules. Should they disagree they should propose changes to the game. They cannot wish to change things retrospectively to their benefit. I agree the EFL is as clear as mud. Parachute payments and FFP are a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsItGoing Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 if you really look at it there was no way the deduction could come this season with the time scale left for all this, say if we were given the deduction this season then we would obviously appeal which would carry over well into the start of the next season. For charlton to be challenging makes no sense, yes they're pissed off but it was the only outcome possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Nixon saying on Twitter if we don’t appeal then other clubs can’t appeal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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