Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ian said: We turned our back on him the minute Fletcher's number went up on the subs board in the play off semi....its as simple as that Carlos you negative chump Fletcher was injured so had to go off. How come there's people that still don't know this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hope Carlos gets a 2nd spell here if/when Monk goes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, sMacLean said: Hope Carlos gets a 2nd spell here if/when Monk goes. As much as I enjoyed him being here, it rarely works when a manager has a second go at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, Carbone said: I went to every game that season thanks.. If you think about it more you could consider our injury crisis and the effect that had on our performance and the options available to us. He bottled it like he did with Swansea's relegation fight when called upon he was sadly lacking 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: As much as I enjoyed him being here, it rarely works when a manager has a second go at it Agreed. I don't think he will or should come back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It's easy to have rose-tinted spectacles when looking at Carlos. Easily our best manager since the premier league (not counting Bruce because he went and ruined it by leaving us prematurely). Trouble is, we should've attacked Huddersfield in the play-offs first leg instead of playing for a draw. We were the better team, we should've dominated them. We were on the back foot in the second leg because they could just sit back and defend for a draw. At his best, under Carlos it was exciting brilliant football. At his worst, it was too negative. And that was the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 The fact we still talk about Carlos just shows that everyone misses him and those two years. We’ve not had anything like it in 20 years. People come on here and love to slag him off but it’s just like when a lass breaks up with you and you pretend you weren’t arsed and didn’t really fancy her anyway. But in reality you’re absolutely heartbroken. Admit it Carlos haters, it’s been 3 years and you can’t get over him. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Pulcinella said: It's easy to have rose-tinted spectacles when looking at Carlos. Easily our best manager since the premier league (not counting Bruce because he went and ruined it by leaving us prematurely). Trouble is, we should've attacked Huddersfield in the play-offs first leg instead of playing for a draw. We were the better team, we should've dominated them. We were on the back foot in the second leg because they could just sit back and defend for a draw. At his best, under Carlos it was exciting brilliant football. At his worst, it was too negative. And that was the problem. I think a big problem in the second season was our inability to adapt well enough to teams becoming more defensive against us. We had that surprise factor in his first season, and I don't think teams thought we were that good and tried to take us on. We were more respected in his second season, and teams played more defensively against us, we struggled with that. Although we did finish higher up the table, it wasn't as fun to watch for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I was amongst the last few on here to want Carlos out...but to be honest I had to admit in the end he had lost it. Whatever reasons were behind that...I don't know...but the whole thing was looking like it was coming offa the rails...It wasn't an attempt at rebuilding or owt..It looked like a disorganised mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: I was amongst the last few on here to want Carlos out...but to be honest I had to admit in the end he had lost it. Whatever reasons were behind that...I don't know...but the whole thing was looking like it was coming offa the rails...It wasn't an attempt at rebuilding or owt..It looked like a disorganised mess Didn't help that he wasn't backed to bring in the players he wanted for his last season, but yeah, it was miserable towards the end and it was time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagarri Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Carlos was a great manager when things were going well, charismatic, engaging and brought a feel good factor...but when the pressure increased he crumbled big time. It became painful to watch, the £20 press conference summed it up. It was similar at Swansea, started well, became a media darling then when the tide turned he just lost all composure. Guess that’s why his CV reads as it does. ...that first season was great though (up ‘til PO final), felt like we got Goal of the Month every month too (or was that the season after)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bagarri said: Carlos was a great manager when things were going well, charismatic, engaging and brought a feel good factor...but when the pressure increased he crumbled big time. It became painful to watch, the £20 press conference summed it up. It was similar at Swansea, started well, became a media darling then when the tide turned he just lost all composure. Guess that’s why his CV reads as it does. ...that first season was great though (up ‘til PO final), felt like we got Goal of the Month every month too (or was that the season after)? It will be interesting to see how he does if he comes over here again, I imagine a lot of Championship teams would happily give him a go based on his first two seasons here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 We play football like we did in the first season under him - id have him back in a flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Even in his first season his 'flagship' season if you like some of our away performances were simply shocking. Carlos says he could have gone to the PL that first season who were the clubs then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, TaxiMark said: Even in his first season his 'flagship' season if you like some of our away performances were simply shocking. Carlos says he could have gone to the PL that first season who were the clubs then? Swansea had been interested in him for a long time I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, sMacLean said: Hope Carlos gets a 2nd spell here if/when Monk goes. Why? What about him convinced you that he's up for a build job here? He coasted by on some pre-made veterans and when things went pear-shaped, he had neither the skill or tactical nous to reverse course. Edited July 3, 2020 by Socialist_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Carbone said: Swansea had been interested in him for a long time I believe. Why would swansea have him back he made a massive pigs ear of it last time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carbone Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Why would swansea have him back he made a massive pigs ear of it last time Read it again.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, Carbone said: It will be interesting to see how he does if he comes over here again, I imagine a lot of Championship teams would happily give him a go based on his first two seasons here. He's been quite available. No one's bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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