billyblack Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 So Monk is effectively director of football and manager and not allowes to bring any of his own staff in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, billyblack said: So Monk is effectively director of football and manager and not allowes to bring any of his own staff in. We have more masseurs at the club than first team coaches Let that sink in for a moment... Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 29/03/2020 at 15:21, @owlstalk said: Name me ONE football club where that happens where only one journalist is allowed exclusive access and all others are shunned and excluded Just one April 25 sports club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: We have more masseurs at the club than first team coaches Let that sink in for a moment... At least i know where to go for a night out then 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Disappointing stuff. So who comprise this team of CEOs? Names, please. Operating behind a cloak of secrecy invites the very comments DC labels "unconstructive". You can't have it both ways, Deph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 And sadly the shitshow appears like it's going to carry on and on and on. I will tell anyone who is willing to listen, his leadership of the club isn't going to end well and he shows no signs of learning from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 hours ago, @owlstalk said: We have more masseurs at the club than first team coaches Let that sink in for a moment... Is a happy ending on the cards? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: So who comprise this team of CEOs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: Disappointing stuff. So who comprise this team of CEOs? Names, please. Operating behind a cloak of secrecy invites the very comments DC labels "unconstructive". You can't have it both ways, Deph. People like Trevor Braithwait - director of communications. Been at the club for absolute years now having come from the fanzine editing/producing world. He's overseen the communications and PR of the club over the years, the strategy when it comes to club and supporter communication, the website, the online content, social media output and the communication between club and journalists. All that sort of stuff. Trevor's a lifelong Wednesday fan, knows the club inside out and is always ready to help anyone who wants or needs it. He's one of the people Chansiri refers to and one of those Chansiri trusts to run their department professionally. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 29/03/2020 at 18:16, @owlstalk said: Thank you for posting those links Hopefully a few will have a read of them As you know I've been banging on about this for years on here. None of this sits well with me, no matter what Chansiri says or denies. And the more you dig into it, the worse it looks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: People like Trevor Braithwait - director of communications. Been at the club for absolute years now having come from the fanzine editing/producing world. He's overseen the communications and PR of the club over the years, the strategy when it comes to club and supporter communication, the website, the online content, social media output and the communication between club and journalists. All that sort of stuff. He's one of the people Chansiri refers to and one of those Chansiri trusts to run their department professionally. Trevor is a top bloke to be fair. Have a lot of time for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: People like Trevor Braithwait - director of communications. Been at the club for absolute years now having come from the fanzine editing/producing world. He's overseen the communications and PR of the club over the years, the strategy when it comes to club and supporter communication, the website, the online content, social media output and the communication between club and journalists. All that sort of stuff. He's one of the people Chansiri refers to and one of those Chansiri trusts to run their department professionally. I have had first hand dealing with Trevor and found him to be extremely helpful and professional, he was a top bloke and went the extra mile to help me with my request on behalf of my son. My main worry is Mr C and stuffing boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I’ve done enough reading to know that characters like Paixao don’t sit right with me. The chairman has said his side of things, and fair play to him for doing so. It’s his club at the end of the day, he’s gave his side. That doesn’t mean we can’t question it and still have worry. I do think every time he comes out in public he takes a very defensive tone which suggests he doesn’t like criticism. He’s the same at fans forums and press conferences. There’s still a lot of contradictions, ambiguity and deflection for me. Not enough people at the club taking responsibility or accepting mistakes openly. But like I’ve said it’s DC’s club and he is free to see and do what he wants. BUT that doesn’t mean we have to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: I do think every time he comes out in public he takes a very defensive tone which suggests he doesn’t like criticism. He’s the same at fans forums and press conferences. There’s still a lot of contradictions, ambiguity and deflection for me. Not enough people at the club taking responsibility or accepting mistakes openly. I think that's Thai culture, they don't seem to like criticism. https://www.learnthaiculture.com/thai_culture_criticism.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 29/03/2020 at 17:59, DJMortimer said: For those who want to put some of this into a wider context of who is associated with SWFC and what has been written about their methods, please take a look at the links below. Whilst some attempt to reject it summarily as nothing more than the conspiratorial musings of a prejudiced loser on Twitter, it includes actual transcripts from e-mails and text messages of those involved, investigations by FIFA and UEFA, documents submitted to a leading German newspaper and court proceedings in Spain. https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/newsid=2637091.html https://www.footballparadise.com/dan-petrescu/ https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-the-dirty-tricks-of-doyen-sports/ https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/football/2019/jul/17/spain-probes-football-leaks-target-doyen-sports-2005354.html https://footballtyper.com/2018/03/05/under-the-influence/ https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-the-paper-players-of-cyprus/ As for Chansiri once and for all dealing with the questions regarding the involvement of Doyen Sports, as follows... On the face of it, that does seem quite comprehensive. However, Paixao Amadeu is head of Foremost Sports, prior to that, Principal Sports and previously an agent for Doyen Sports. The careers of him and Doyen's founder, Nelio Lucas, are extensively intertwined. Whilst technically, formal links to that company may no longer exist, their respective histories cannot be so easily dismissed as no longer relevant. I'm not attempting to 'prove' that anyone is engaged in anything unethical or illegal. Even if they were, that would be rather beyond my scope to demonstrate. All I'm asking is that some supporters don't see blind faith as an essential duty for them to be considered loyal to the club. If you can read those links objectively (and I know that most won't bother but will remain strongly opinionated regardless) and if you can see what is unfolding at our club without unease, then good luck to you. Personally however, I think there are significant causes for concern that don't appear, publicly at least, to be troubling our chairman in the same way. I can well understand people not being interested in some of these finer points, even if I don't get how they can form such strong opinions with so little information. But given the situation the club is in at the moment, especially financially, surely some probing questions are justified? Wonder what kind of relationship was held with the Pozzo family? Seemed to sign quite a few players from Watford.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Roscoe P. Coltrane said: Wonder what kind of relationship was held with the Pozzo family? Seemed to sign quite a few players from Watford.. Yeah, I was looking through a thread from some time ago that wondered about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Trevor is a top bloke He probably wrote 80% of the responses to this interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioowl Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 29/03/2020 at 00:19, Sergeant Tibbs said: He takes any form of criticism personally. Not a good trait in business. Still think he chose the questions and this so called interview is just a statement. Rehashes what he’s said before. I dont know anyone who dosnt take personal criticism personally,do you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 7 hours ago, pioowl said: I dont know anyone who dosnt take personal criticism personally,do you?? I know plenty. He’s in a position where he needs to rise above it. It would be naive to walk into a role of this magnitude and think it would be all back slapping. Perhaps he fell into that trap in his first season. I won’t be the first person to call him naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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