DJMortimer Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Please don’t criticise local journalists. Focus on their content. Unless they are moving away from independent reporting - in your opinion - and turning into propaganda machines - in your opinion If the owner has apparently sidelined all but one of them, doesn't the question rather ask itself? That kind of thing is about information management and more in keeping with a mad dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Hang on... Only a few posts back you were hurtling accusations at Twitter that it was the place rumours originated Make your mind up That’s what I’ve just said in that post too. If you don’t understand get back to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That's a nonsensical reply to what I've just said mate Not really, you was insinuating im someone who believes his, and the clubs every word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just now, DJMortimer said: If the owner has apparently sidelined all but one of them, doesn't the question rather ask itself? That kind of thing is about information management and more in keeping with a mad dictator. Are you talking about Owlstalk or SWFC? It’s not immediately obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Please don’t criticise local journalists. Focus on their content. Unless they are moving away from independent reporting - in your opinion - and turning into propaganda machines - in your opinion I focussed purely and solely on the content mate I'm absolutely aghast... repeat AGHAST that you can't grip this concept You seem to be really struggling with it I"m aghast Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, torres said: That’s what I’ve just said in that post too. If you don’t understand get back to me Hi Me again just getting back to you Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: If the owner has apparently sidelined all but one of them, doesn't the question rather ask itself? That kind of thing is about information management and more in keeping with a mad dictator. Btw - it’s very normal for people to have exclusive access...it’s kind of how stuff works in the world, doesn’t make anyone a mad dictator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The main issue I have is that there are fans out there including in this thread (Royal D etc) who aren't actually spending their time discussing any of the points Chansiri has raised/said. They're instead using all their energy up solely attacking the fact that any questions should be asked of Chansiri Nothing about the points raised or questions asked specifically, but more or less that no questions should ever be raised once Chansiri has given an answer Thats' worrying there are fans out there that feel like that. Especially when you look at our league position, form, transfer history, FFP and EFL charges, selling our ground etc etc I have never said don’t question him , I’ve said what’s the point in asking him the same questions time and time again when your minds are made up and you think you know better anyway Pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I focussed purely and solely on the content mate I'm absolutely aghast... repeat AGHAST that you can't grip this concept You seem to be really struggling with it I"m aghast Well...I was joking... But funnily enough, so was the guy you jumped on in the Biggus thread (focused purely on the content) Edited March 29, 2020 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I have an open mind I'm willing to admit and acknowledge when I'm wrong I'm also have a balanced viewpoint that is based on evidence that I'm presented with and information that is given to me whether online or face to face. I don't stick to one viewpoint just because I once thought something But it seems there are a few people in this thread who are none of the above and are just sticking to their viewpoint on not challenging Chansiri's answers regardless of any of the information or details put in front of them. Makes debate difficult Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Btw - it’s very normal for people to have exclusive access... Name me ONE football club where that happens where only one journalist is allowed exclusive access and all others are shunned and excluded Just one Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I focussed purely and solely on the content mate I'm absolutely aghast... repeat AGHAST that you can't grip this concept You seem to be really struggling with it I"m aghast In any case - focusing on the content would be saying ‘this seems like a piece of propaganda’ Focusing on the credibility of the journo would be saying ‘he’s turning into a propaganda machine’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I have an open mind I'm willing to admit and acknowledge when I'm wrong I'm also have a balanced viewpoint that is based on evidence that I'm presented with and information that is given to me whether online or face to face. I don't stick to one viewpoint just because I once thought something But it seems there are a few people in this thread who are none of the above and are just sticking to their viewpoint on not challenging Chansiri's answers regardless of any of the information or details put in front of them. Makes debate difficult Information and Detail put infront of them hahaha , from what ? Twitter ? Chris Waddle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Name me ONE football club where that happens SWFC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just now, McRightSide said: In any case - focusing on the content would be saying ‘this seems like a piece of propaganda’ Focusing on the credibility of the journo would be saying ‘he’s turning into a propaganda machine’ Whilst I agree please don't insinuate that I said the second I didn't For clarity here's my exact word for word phrasing - "That's going beyond independent reporting and is turning instead into a propaganda machine" Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Information and Detail put infront of them hahaha , from what ? Twitter ? Chris Waddle ? In this thread you pudding FFS Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Name me ONE football club where that happens where only one journalist is allowed exclusive access and all others are shunned and excluded Just one they’re only excluded from this interview, which is fine...they are given all kinds of access alongside everyone else the rest of the time Its very normal...maybe even usual...for anyone- not just football clubs - to only work with one media outlet to do a special interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: I have never said don’t question him , I’ve said what’s the point in asking him the same questions time and time again when your minds are made up and you think you know better anyway Pointless So you're ignoring all the difficult questions then for a trusting, blanket denial, despite all the signs of concern? Your free to make your choice, just as I am. 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Btw - it’s very normal for people to have exclusive access...it’s kind of how stuff works in the world, doesn’t make anyone a mad dictator Not in a football club it isn't. Maybe Chansiri isn't a dictator (although there are several claiming inside information that he is), but if you're attempting to limit the flow of information to one individual, whose access is presumably conditional on a certain degree of compliance, then you don't need to be a swivel-eyed tin foil hat-wearing loon to wonder what the motivation might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just now, DJMortimer said: So you're ignoring all the difficult questions then for a trusting, blanket denial, despite all the signs of concern? Your free to make your choice, just as I am. Not in a football club it isn't. Maybe Chansiri isn't a dictator (although there are several claiming inside information that he is), but if you're attempting to limit the flow of information to one individual, whose access is presumably conditional on a certain degree of compliance, then you don't need to be a swivel-eyed tin foil hat-wearing loon to wonder what the motivation might be. Of course it is How many times do you hear the phrase ‘exclusive interview’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Really not interested in anything Dom Howson writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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