room0035 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, LoanRanger said: Think he's a snip at that price but both the fee and wages could be a problem. I know we had £1m set aside for Leko initially, but then again, Windass' fee might only have been used because Leko failed. Murphy or Jutkiewicz would be absolutely incredible signings anyway. James Collins is the man we need to front and with Brown in loan could well develop into a great goal scored for us. I would still have a look at Maddison, would be better than what we currently have on the right. No fee and minimal wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, LoanRanger said: Think he's a snip at that price but both the fee and wages could be a problem. I know we had £1m set aside for Leko initially, but then again, Windass' fee might only have been used because Leko failed. Murphy or Jutkiewicz would be absolutely incredible signings anyway. Jutkiewicz would be a smart signing. He's experienced at this level and would be an ideal replacement for Fletcher, plus he seems more mobile too. I feel, that the main striker we bring in, needs to not only be able to play up top on his own but also to be effective in a partnership or a front three too, and to have a bit of athleticism or dynamism. The way we seem to be setting up, to get the most out of our creative players, they need runners and players to get onto the end of things. Adaptable ans dynamic attackers would stretch the opposition and would allow our creative players to play them in and support them. Murphy for me would be a important signing, as I feel he was very effective for us last season. He suits how we play, and it's significant that we bring him back or bring in someone similar that can replicate his threat and end product. Edited September 6, 2020 by The Night-Owl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, frastheowl said: I accept that we need at least another option in the striking department. But all this doom and gloom, and almost acceptance that we simply won't be able to win a game until we sign another striker, is ridiculous. Having a goalscorer is often a luxury...it's not a necessity. Many teams have been promoted from this league, without relying on a particularly goalscorer. Loads of teams, every single season, compete with that luxury. First and foremost, what needs to happen with this team, is they need to start been able to believe they can keep clean sheets. That hasn't happened for a long time, and that's why we've become so reliant on goalscorers. In the 2014-15 season, we finished 19 points clear of the relegation zone (surpassing our primary aim for this season) with a top goalscorer with EIGHT goals (Maguire and Nuhiu). In the 2016-17 season, when we finished with a huge 81 points, our top goalscorer scored 12 goals (Forestieri) and only Fletcher also made double figures. We weren't successful in those season because of our ability to score goals...but because we kept clean sheets...and a lot of them. If we can become an organised unit, then the amount of goals we'll be required to score to achieve our goals, will be considerably less. Indeed but the only difference was we had a great defence not one shipping two goals a game. If we can tighten up at the back, We don't need as many goals but if we are conceding 2 a game, as we average from Jan to the end of the season with we need to score at least 2 to get anything from the game a feat we managed just 14 times out of 46 games last season. Share the goals around - Fletch, Murphy, Nuihu got 29 between then the next highest player got just 3. We currently don't have any goals from midfield or defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Please don’t let Nuhiu be the only ‘new’ striker signing we make! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Owls-Fan said: Ah okay so we’d be looking at the below then, strikers and goalkeepers chosen TBC Striker Striker Brown Bannan Luongo Penney Sanderson Borner Dunkley Iorfa GK That’s basically what I was thinking but I’d play Kachunga alongside ANother up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulture_squadron Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Jesus, where has all this Jutkiewicz love come from? Is he even for sale? He's Birmingham's top scorer! We're not going to spend millions on a 31 year old surely? It's like that summer we left the 9 shirt vacant, got linked with Billy Sharpe and Rasiak - who were never gonna come - and ended up with Franny Jeffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, vulture_squadron said: Jesus, where has all this Jutkiewicz love come from? Is he even for sale? He's Birmingham's top scorer! We're not going to spend millions on a 31 year old surely? It's like that summer we left the 9 shirt vacant, got linked with Billy Sharpe and Rasiak - who were never gonna come - and ended up with Franny Jeffers. In this instance we might re sign Nuhiu for free the target man role rather than pay 1-2m for a james Collins or Jukiewicz who are all around the same age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: In this instance we might re sign Nuhiu for free the target man role rather than pay 1-2m for a james Collins or Jukiewicz who are all around the same age but Jutkiewicz does things a lot better than Nuhiu especially scoring goals! 14 & 15 goals scored in the last 2 seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest domSWFC Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I think we'll definitely be after a decent striker, well that's what I'm hoping we left the #9 free for. I'd take Jutkiewicz but I'd also take Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, domSWFC said: I think we'll definitely be after a decent striker, well that's what I'm hoping we left the #9 free for. I'd take Jutkiewicz but I'd also take Martin. Agree but Martin as already joined Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, domSWFC said: I think we'll definitely be after a decent striker, well that's what I'm hoping we left the #9 free for. I'd take Jutkiewicz but I'd also take Martin. Not sure how Bristol City would feel about that. *beaten to it ^ Edited September 6, 2020 by wilyfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Luton have a £750,000 bid for Alfie Doughty turned down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: but Jutkiewicz does things a lot better than Nuhiu especially scoring goals! 14 & 15 goals scored in the last 2 seasons. Well to be fair, he started 86 league games for those 29 goals compared to just 27 for Nuhiu, who scored 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 8 hours ago, room0035 said: Both midfielders what's your point. Kachunga in the last 3 season has played 81% of his games right wing, and we new from when Windass was here last he's an attack minded midfielder. Both been signed to score goals they are strikers but not center forwards 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulture_squadron Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Bluesteel said: In this instance we might re sign Nuhiu for free the target man role rather than pay 1-2m for a james Collins or Jukiewicz who are all around the same age Birmingham will not sell us their top scorer for 1 or 2 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, vulture_squadron said: Birmingham will not sell us their top scorer for 1 or 2 million. He was in the last year of his contract and Forest had supposedly bid around 1.5m. Not sure what happened with that But even so it makes re signing Nuhiu the sound financial choice Edited September 7, 2020 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 hours ago, gurujuan said: Luton have a £750,000 bid for Alfie Doughty turned down Most likey going to Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: but Jutkiewicz does things a lot better than Nuhiu especially scoring goals! 14 & 15 goals scored in the last 2 seasons. He does but perhaps we can’t get Jukiewicz for an affordable price. I know who I’d rather have but we want 3/4 more players on a shoestring Nuhiu and Jukiewicz are very similar players Edited September 7, 2020 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I’m not sure Jukiewicz is sufficient an upgrade on Nuhiu from the bench, and even less convinced about him as a starter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I’m not sure Jukiewicz is sufficient an upgrade on Nuhiu from the bench, and even less convinced about him as a starter He’s definitely not a multimillion pound upgrade or worth double / treble the salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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