Guest mkowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, WalthamOwl said: I know the Birmingham manager use to be his assistant. Not sure about the others. Like you say give it time I guess but I just find it strange Bullen being assistant. Can’t imagine many other managers would go in to a job without their people around them. Would cost compensation as well. Does FFP come into this - I know there is a view that the manager / coaches don't count in that calc but I have never seen that for the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ThisCityIsOurs88 said: Monk isn’t bringing any other staff and has to work with Bullen as assistant. No wonder it took so long to get somebody willing to work under these constraints. Why keep Bullen? What does he add? Clearly a nice bloke but he’s been here under so many failed regimes. Fresh ideas needed under fresh management IMO. It is to do with money, DC was trying not to spend too much on manager. Monk will not have been cheap. We have good fitness coach and recruitment specialists so know need for Monk to use Featherstone who all uproar was about to help with recruitment. issue is with coaching as its down to Monk, Bullen and Weaver. Monk is young enough to be on field with players but we do probably need somebody else which may mean Bullen has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, mkowl said: Would cost compensation as well. Does FFP come into this - I know there is a view that the manager / coaches don't count in that calc but I have never seen that for the Championship The costs of coaches do count in calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WalthamOwl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I wonder if the fact he is being investigated for transfer dealings by his older clubs will effect the respect etc our players have for him. We don’t want any excuse for them not giving 100% for him. Personally I’ve always believed it doesn’t matter how they feel about a manager they should always give everything for the club and fans. That doesn’t happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, shezzas left peg said: Great band, great song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Great band, great song. Defiantly, I hated nirvana. Could never understand how people loved the mumbling incoherent cobain. Layne had a way far superior vocal range and voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangonrose Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, torres said: Totally agree. Players are under achieving under the current regime - looks like it’s easy street and far too comfortable New coaches/ideas/views required Bullen will know when it's time to go. Monk will know when the right time is to let him go. It's useful in the short term for continuity's sake, but I can't see Monk being swayed by sentimentality. He didn't get where he is today without being single-minded and ruthless as is necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 58 minutes ago, hangonrose said: He didn't get where he is today without being single-minded and ruthless as is necessary What, out of work and under investigation and 12th choice for a mid table championship team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 DC all over. Loyalty and all that. I agree it’s maybe time for bullen to move on and let’s have a new broom sweep clean regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: We've played SIX games...FFS We’ve been under achieving for 20 years...FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Hahaha, I kinda guessed there'd be a few WUMs 'n' trolls logging on tonight, FFS. Should be good for a giggle or two, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: Yet fans were calling for the Cowleys who have only just climbed to their highest point in the Football triangle to the 1st division?. Not me mate On 05/09/2019 at 13:42, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: I’ve had a long hard think about this and decided to vote no If they do come then I will get behind them, and I would prefer them to Bullen But I don’t think our players would accept them, I could see another Jos situation developing, when the Cowley’s start dropping one or two crowd favourites Time will tell, but many many managers have failed at this club, many with much bigger names This is a monster of a job to get right, and it will take someone special Are the Cowley’s’s special enough, I’m not sure, it’s just too big a risk for me Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc1983 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Quist said: It is to do with money, DC was trying not to spend too much on manager. Monk will not have been cheap. We have good fitness coach and recruitment specialists so know need for Monk to use Featherstone who all uproar was about to help with recruitment. issue is with coaching as its down to Monk, Bullen and Weaver. Monk is young enough to be on field with players but we do probably need somebody else which may mean Bullen has to go. The official team photo was in the Star this week complete with chairman and staff. We must have as many backroom staff as we do players. Physios, analysts, performance directors you name it. If we sack the lot and let a new manager restaff every time they come in it’s going to cost a bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I see we’ve kept to our 80s theme (the kits) with this thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Bet that Pep bloke comes in in the next couple of weeks, no, not that one, the other one that follows Monk around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: I wonder if the fact he is being investigated for transfer dealings by his older clubs will effect the respect etc our players have for him. We don’t want any excuse for them not giving 100% for him. Personally I’ve always believed it doesn’t matter how they feel about a manager they should always give everything for the club and fans. That doesn’t happen though. You really are clutching at straws mf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Royal_D said: Nah, me neither , I can’t stand the fact a bloke who works his absolute heart out for Sheffield Wednesday football club gets time of day and respect, a bloke who’s proven he can step upto the plate and provide stability time and time again when the clubs in trouble It’s an absolute disgrace, get him out of the club and bring in someone like David Hirst eh ? A proper club ‘legend’ with best interests of club at heart I’ve heard Absolutely bang on mate and some on here have the nerve to talk about “respect” (for himself). They don’t know the meaning of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatpusher Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 bit weird to assume this was a constraint pushed onto any potential manager, having someone with his knowledge of the squad is a massive plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulture_squadron Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Great to have Bullen around, initially at least, as Monk gets to know the squad. Will probably bring in coaches as/when he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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