theowlsman Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I’ll be so glad when Hughton arrives. This place isn’t what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Salmonbones Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: Small time Manager. Needs to be managing a team playing the underdog. We need someone who is bigger than us. You see, I can understand this viewpoint but I still don't agree with it. Maybe you are thinking Atkinson. I don't believe he was bigger than Wednesday. He was larger than life though, and he did small things that made a difference. Like putting on a comedian on the journey to London for the players. Like always singling out Palmer for criticism as a joke, but then giving in to Palmer's whim of having a half time cuppa, strong, not very milky and a sugar. Atkinson also knew some of his stars had flaws and he allowed them to have them. Hirst, Sheridan for example would have had to change their lifestyle if they were under a stricter manager. Two things strike me with Holloway. He never takes coaching sessions, so he's going to need one, two, possibly three really good coaches under him to replace what went out. Bruce was a coach, same with Jos and CC before. Second - Holloway will alienate one or two players. That's not a bad thing. Jos identified that players ruled the roost. He tried to stop it, it went belly up for him. Bruce would have been able to manage that because of a certain amount of respect and he also didn't do stupid things like not play your best players. Holloway? I imagine he may be more of a Jos mentality and we could lose one or two of the big egos in the dressing room because of that - however if done correctly it may not be a bad thing. Edited July 26, 2019 by Salmonbones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Holloways press conferences would be legendary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I imagine Bullen would fall on his sword if Holloway was appointed too. Bullen can get any coaching gig he wants pretty much at this level now if he wants, but I don't think he'd really want to be under a character like Holloway. This is just a personal thought, I hope i'd be wrong because the players will always need someone of influence around them who is grounded - Bullen certainly is grounded and a good influence. Holloway? Mad as a hatter. That doesn't mean I wouldn't get behind him or don't think he'd work however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Salmonbones said: You see, I can understand this viewpoint but I still don't agree with it. Maybe you are thinking Atkinson. I don't believe he was bigger than Wednesday. He was larger than life though, and he did small things that made a difference. Like putting on a comedian on the journey to London for the players. Like always singling out Palmer for criticism as a joke, but then giving in to Palmer's whim of having a half time cuppa, strong, not very milky and a sugar. Atkinson also knew some of his stars had flaws and he allowed them to have them. Hirst, Sheridan for example would have had to change their lifestyle if they were under a stricter manager. Two things strike me with Holloway. He never takes coaching sessions, so he's going to need one, two, possibly three really good coaches under him to replace what went out. Bruce was a coach, same with Jos and CC before. Second - Holloway will alienate one or two players. That's not a bad thing. Jos identified that players ruled the roost. He tried to stop it, it went belly up for him. Bruce would have been able to manage that because of a certain amount of respect and he also didn't do stupid things like not play your best players. Holloway? I imagine he may be more of a Jos mentality and we could lose one or two of the big egos in the dressing room because of that - however if done correctly it may not be a bad thing. No. I was thinking of Bruce. The only manager in recent times who had a stature greater than that of SWFC. I think that’s the recipe for success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, ANDY said: Holloways press conferences would be legendary Legendary or cringe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, McRightSide said: No. I was thinking of Bruce. The only manager in recent times who had a stature greater than that of SWFC. I think that’s the recipe for success. Shame, Atkinson was better than Bruce. There is a reason Newcastle fans are distraught at his appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, McRightSide said: No. I was thinking of Bruce. The only manager in recent times who had a stature greater than that of SWFC. I think that’s the recipe for success. Bruce does not have a greater stature than Wednesday get real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Did I mention we walked and talked with him all the way to the tube station after the PO Final? Loves us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Bruce does not have a greater stature than Wednesday get real 12 trophies and a double winning captain at Man Utd tells me his stature is bigger than ours. If you still doubt that, go and look at the media coverage of his move 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, 33 said: Did I mention we walked and talked with him all the way to the tube station after the PO Final? Loves us Told me the same when I rang him earlier Said he expected to get the call this time. Asked why he was so confident, he told me “Because the other 100 daft b’strds who applied turned it down due to the umbongo. I waited until today to tell Mr Chansiri I’d take it. The only other applicant left was Steve Bruce, who wants to come back, but Mr C told him to do one”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 hours ago, McRightSide said: 12 trophies and a double winning captain at Man Utd tells me his stature is bigger than ours. If you still doubt that, go and look at the media coverage of his move He is a lower premier league manager / top championship manager. The media coverage has been big because it has shocked and disgusted Newcastle fans precisely because he isn't a big enough name for them! And that is Newcastle who have been relegated a couple of times in recent history! Basing trophies won in a playing career is a joke, by that logic Jonathan greening is bigger than Wednesday too seeing as he was part of the champions league winning squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 19:00, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: Olly is a better singer wish I could + that some more Hoots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, trevdi9 said: wish I could + that some more Hoots ey up trev everything OK mate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 hours ago, steelowl said: ey up trev everything OK mate? yep ok at present Tim thanks, daughters been down so been grabbing a bit of free time fishing , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 20 hours ago, McRightSide said: Small time Manager. Needs to be managing a team playing the underdog. We need someone who is bigger than us. NO ONE is bigger than us. We are massive. What's wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 hours ago, trevdi9 said: wish I could + that some more Hoots Don't remember posting that mate Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Always said if I was rich and buying the club, I'd have him as our manager Wants to win and passion for the game, and an understanding of the fans. I'd be delighted if he was given a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, quinnssweetshop said: Always said if I was rich and buying the club, I'd have him as our manager Wants to win and passion for the game, and an understanding of the fans. I'd be delighted if he was given a chance. If i was rich and wanted to buy a club ,i'd buy it off ya and fire him,get somebody more relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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