Sonny Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) This is like in The Wire when the Co-op meet to discuss how to stop the Boy Marlo muscling on west side dealers territory. Marlo will just do what he wants regardless. Edited April 24, 2019 by Sonny 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Suppose one way of looking at it is that Gibson has convened a meeting between clubs so he can tell them that the EFL bosses don't know what they're doing and should get their act together. Wonder how well that'll be received by the EFL? Surely any evidence he's going to use against us anyway will be guesswork as our accounts haven't been made public yet. Edited April 24, 2019 by darra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Hirst1867 said: Don't really understand the constant attack on the EFL as a result of them applying UEFA rules They're not UEFA rules. UEFA introduced the first Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations in 2010. Many governing bodies and leagues followed suit, with the EFL introducing their own FFP regulations in April 2012. In 2014, representatives of the EFL’s 24 Championship clubs voted in favour of a new set of regulations - the Championship Profitability and Sustainability Rules - that came into effect from Season 2016/17. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, darra said: Suppose one way of looking at it is that Gibson has convened a meeting between clubs so he can tell them that the EFL bosses don't know what they're doing and should get their act together. Wonder how well that'll be received by the EFL? Surely any evidence he's going to use against us anyway will surely be guesswork as our accounts haven't been made public. We should send our lawyers to the meeting make sure Gibson and others know they are there ,let them sit there and record what is said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 All Championship clubs are gathering at this meeting. Not sure the EFL will have anyone present. Apparently, to get any rules changed you need 18 out of 24 clubs to be in support. Clearly, us, Villa and Derby will oppose. Question is whether all the others will support Gibson. One would suspect we are not the only ones sailing close to the wind on this. I'm not sure whether the voting system also applies to a potential EFL investigation too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Concrete Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Can see this getting messy with Dejphons answer something like this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, SiJ said: All Championship clubs are gathering at this meeting. Not sure the EFL will have anyone present. Apparently, to get any rules changed you need 18 out of 24 clubs to be in support. Clearly, us, Villa and Derby will oppose. Question is whether all the others will support Gibson. One would suspect we are not the only ones sailing close to the wind on this. I'm not sure whether the voting system also applies to a potential EFL investigation too. Support what though? They can’t change the rules retrospectively so what would they be supporting? An investigation? Is there an article about this meeting somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Yet Gibson is more than happy to accept premier league failure payments to give his team an unfair advantage. I assume the irony of this is lost on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sonny said: Support what though? They can’t change the rules retrospectively so what would they be supporting? An investigation? Is there an article about this meeting somewhere? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/nottingham-forests-city-ground-set-2790719.amp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Yet Gibson is more than happy to accept premier league failure payments to give his team an unfair advantage. I assume the irony of this is lost on him. Think all clubs agree to the rules when it advantages then and disagree with those that don't. Other clubs smaller could argue they have kept within FFP and Wednesday have not giving us unfair advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Surely we can use the injury situation last season as a reason for having to have such a large squad. Many teams would have been relegated with the injury crisis we faced without that investment in such a large squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, the monk said: Wednesday will just say 14m of our overspend went to your club Mr Gibson Even better, £18m. £12m Rhodes, £6m Reach. He should be on his knees thanking us for our generosity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hirst1867 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buckwheat said: Even better, £18m. £12m Rhodes, £6m Reach. He should be on his knees thanking us for our generosity. Could we offer to send them back for a refund? FFP sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Seems awfull convenient that two of the teams are right in the mix for the play offs. Surely, there's no chance of a points deduction for anyone now? That would be farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hirst1867 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, SiJ said: Seems awfull convenient that two of the teams are right in the mix for the play offs. Surely, there's no chance of a points deduction for anyone now? That would be farcical. Don't think any points deductions applied now would count until next season. Think theres a deadline (not sure what it is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The spiteful gorm is shooting himself in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I am was a great admirer of the contribution he's made to Boro but I'm afraid this is coming across as a mardy sour grapes loser We'll never know but I'd put money on him keeping his gob shut if Boro had gone up auto Football has almost always been dominated by clubs who were big enough and able to spend money, we have been at the forefront of this in headier days. I remember us buying Tommy Craig for at the time a record fee that seemed utterly amazing amount of money but we could then for many recent years we just haven't had cash relying on the likes of DA to chuck a few quid at it milan to cobble us through to a sale now we have cash we cant fecking spend it not frustrating at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, SiJ said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/nottingham-forests-city-ground-set-2790719.amp Ta Can’t really complain about a call for more transparency to be honest, no matter who it comes from or why. All our fake sponsors are well dodgy aren’t they. Just have to hope we have more support or better lawyers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SiJ said: Seems awfull convenient that two of the teams are right in the mix for the play offs. Surely, there's no chance of a points deduction for anyone now? That would be farcical. Its to scupper teams next year. Its obvious, if boro fail to go up this year, there failure payments run out and they want to narrow the margins for themselves next year. Boro wont go up via the play offs as villa leeds and wba are all far superior to them. Edited April 24, 2019 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 It’ll just be our luck, after years of clubs getting around these rules, that this bitter two hat gets his way and we end up with maximum punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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