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16 hours ago, Ginner said:

Winnall v's Nuhiu on the bench...

 

Do you trust Bruce with this decision? 

 

Do you think Bruce has seen enough of Championship players and football, of the current fitness and form of our players, of the way they are performing in training? 

 

Bruce knows how to head a ball. Do you think he's not aware of Nuhiu's ability? 

 

I don't rate Nuhiu either, and find his selection puzzling, but I do know that Bruce has a far better educated insight into that selection than me and anyone on here. 

 

So let's just suck it up till the summer and see what happens. 

 

Meantime it'd be really nice if, as a fan base, we could knock it off with the ironic cheers directed at our players (when Nuhiu finally made a flick on today). To those who do it, it doesn't help and frankly it's embarrassing. You just don't understand that do you? 

 

Three managers on the trot go with Nuhui, i wonder why

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12 minutes ago, akbuk said:

Three managers on the trot... 

Steady on. Not sure anyone should use decisions taken during Luhukay's reign as evidence of anything. 

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1 minute ago, Ginner said:

Steady on. Not sure anyone should use decisions taken during Luhukay's reign as evidence of anything. 

But Carlos was king and Bruce is our Saviour 

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Not read this thread, usually avoid the Nuhiu ones. But I’m assuming a fit and sharp Winnall will be on the bench ahead of Nuhiu. 

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Numerous managers pick Nuhiu and a few haven't picked Winnall. They can't all be wrong.

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21 hours ago, coopswfc76 said:

 

In which game has Winnall done this?

 

He doesn't, he made it up. Controlling and retaining the ball is Winnall's biggest weakness

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On 09/02/2019 at 18:49, agentwalker said:

purely because in theory he offers something different i.e tall and *should* be able to win most of the long balls. In reality, he's shocking. The number of balls up to him towards the end that he didn't even jump for was criminal. 

Only on for 5 minutes,

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2 moments from the crowd yesterday ..

3rd time the ball was played up to him you heard a collective shout of “jump” - bloody funny - like we needed to tell him to.

Then Joao made a great run into space when Palmer was in possession and the collective shout of “Joao” was heard.

Tickled me both moments 

 

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1 hour ago, Southie_Owl said:

Not read this thread, usually avoid the Nuhiu ones. But I’m assuming a fit and sharp Winnall will be on the bench ahead of Nuhiu. 

 

I think the pertinent part of your comment is my bold.

 

I know he's had an age to recover, but he's a full blown energy and confidence player.

 

Neither will be anywhere near 100%

 

 

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what you've got to think is ,nuhiu has been at the club for 6 years now ,has he got better since he arrived ?

you can blame managers tactics all you like but can anyone seriously say he has got better?

 

for a man his size I've never seen a player be so pathetic when it comes to winning headers

 

him getting a new contract last summer sums this club up how cr@p it has been ran the last 18 months

 

 

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On 09/02/2019 at 18:58, Ash76 said:

How does anyone jump when they're being held down?

 

I'd have brought him on 5 minutes earlier to be honest

He gets held down becouse his timing and movement are too often, not good enough at this level. If you watch fletcher you'll notice the difference, hes moving towards the ball and attacks it timing his leap well, Nuhiu moves into position too early then stands and waits for it before jumping making it easy for defenders to shut the door on him as he's grounded. 

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16 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said:

 

him getting a new contract last summer sums this club up how cr@p it has been ran the last 18 months

 

 

 

Yeah, let me get my head around this one.

 

Nuhiu finishes last last by scoring more goals in the last six weeks or so than a striker had done all season that just happened to be the club's record signing and on about two or three times more than Nuhiu in terms of salary. Nuhiu gets the first and I think only hattrick since Mellor got one about five or six seasons previously. Nuhiu in the form he finished last season would be a nailed on selection and one of the first names on the team sheet.

 

Any manager (and I mean any manager) would want to retain the services of such a player in those circumstances. What has happened since is hindsight. The decision to offer him a new contract was based on the circumstances that had occurred at that time. It would have been the mother of all cr@p decisions NOT to have offered him a new contract. In fact most of the fanbase at that time would have asked what the feck is happening at the club if he hadn't been offered a new contract.

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1 hour ago, ChinaOwl said:

 

Yeah, let me get my head around this one.

 

Nuhiu finishes last last by scoring more goals in the last six weeks or so than a striker had done all season that just happened to be the club's record signing and on about two or three times more than Nuhiu in terms of salary. Nuhiu gets the first and I think only hattrick since Mellor got one about five or six seasons previously. Nuhiu in the form he finished last season would be a nailed on selection and one of the first names on the team sheet.

 

Any manager (and I mean any manager) would want to retain the services of such a player in those circumstances. What has happened since is hindsight. The decision to offer him a new contract was based on the circumstances that had occurred at that time. It would have been the mother of all cr@p decisions NOT to have offered him a new contract. In fact most of the fanbase at that time would have asked what the feck is happening at the club if he hadn't been offered a new contract.

Spot on. 

I would also add that you would have expected Jos to have given Nuhiu and Joao a prolonged run together at the start of the season as this was the effective goal scoring partnership at the end of last season.  Ok, Nuhiu got a one match ban but he only got a couple of games on his return before being relegated to the bench. Surely if you have proof that a partnership works, you give it a good go before dispensing with it?

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Whatever the merits of Nuhiu, Winnall is never going to be the answer at this level A league one player in my opinion

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12 hours ago, Owly Mowly said:

2 moments from the crowd yesterday ..

3rd time the ball was played up to him you heard a collective shout of “jump” - bloody funny - like we needed to tell him to.

Then Joao made a great run into space when Palmer was in possession and the collective shout of “Joao” was heard.

Tickled me both moments 

 

 

12 hours ago, stevie snerklebox said:

They're both garbage.

 

Nah, I'm with Owly Mowly. Both were mildly amusing.

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It doesn't matter who our forwards are, until we get pace and width they will struggle for goals. All our forwards are better attacking a ball from out wide, for Winnall and Rhodes it's their main source of goal attempts.

 

I don't believe Arrons is the long term answer*, but given a game or two, he could transform our performances and more goals will come from our forwards. 

 

*My concern is that Arrons might be a "head down, race to goal and shoot" type pace-merchant, whereas what we need is for him to race down the wing, pull a centre back out, look up and pick a cross for Joao, Fletcher, Rhodes, Winnall or even Nuhiu to attack the space.

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nuhiu is an ideal player to have on the bench when your either chasing the game or hanging on to a lead …...defensively he excellent when the balls pumped into our area from free kicks ,corners …..if we are chasing then lobbing it into  the oppo's box he causes them problems just by his sheer size ……...we all know what he can and cannot do as do the 5 managers who have consistently included him in the matchday 18 . 

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A few weeks ago I’d have been annoyed by this thread as Winnall is crap in the loan striker role when we are playing 4-3-3 so it’s obvious why Nuhiu was picked. However, the OP’s question is now fair as we are essentially playing two up top. Joao can play the Fletcher role so maybe Winnall should be on the bench instead of Atdhe?

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