theowlsman Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, Watson said: Reading through all the threads and how badly we played, I would have guessed we had lost by five not by the odd goal away from home against a decent side. Every time we drop points the sense of entitlement from some posters is unreal. Yet at the same time accepting that was a pile of shyte yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, theowlsman said: Yet at the same time accepting that was a pile of shyte yeah? Missed opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, WAWAWUTO17 said: He didn't have a good game tonight I agree. But I rate the lad. Thought Baker played better than Reach tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAWUTO17 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, stanningtonowl said: Thought Baker played better than Reach tonight. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAWUTO17 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, theowlsman said: You can’t blame the young lad for being picked for 1st team duty when he’s not yet ready and still needs to develop further. You look elsewhere. We’ve needed to sort out the full back positions for some time and we go into what is supposed to be another promotion season with Palmer and some young kid at right back, also getting lucky at left back with another young lad (Penney) who comes good, but who is backed up with Fox as a best alternative. This club is not being run as well as it should be. Don’t lose focus of the real issues. At what age is a player ready though? I keep hearing 21 is young. It's not though is it in terms of football these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: Not seen the game - anybody care to explain what he did wrong, and what he did that was worse than Palmer on Saturday? he was no better/worse tonight than in his other performances. He's not good enough for the Championship yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, owls66 said: Should be nowhere near the team. He looked lost tonight, though I blame Jos for picking a player that is not up to this level, at least yet. I'd like to blame Jos, but the reality is we can't afford anything more than what we've got. Baker will make a good right back, he's got time on his side. But he needs coaching on what to do with the ball going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, Watson said: Missed opportunities Missed opportunities? God give me strength. It was a load of random bodies thrown together with no real game plan, who looked clueless, without direction, and as a consequence thought feck it, I can’t be arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I don't think Baker was terrible but he is not as assured as Palmer. I'm not sure he is good enough back up for what we want to be achieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Baker is not good enough i doubt he is even league 2 level makes palmer look good and im not saying this cause we lost. He continually looks 4 a back pass when a forward pass is easier .fox gets stick but baker is our weakest link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 To be fair to the lad our front three looked non existant nearly all night and our midfield three never got hold of or put any real stamp on possession, so had no real out ball that stuck or any proper cover down the right, so was exposed 2 on 1 way too often, always seems the case karanka won the tactical battle against us, yes we had beaten forest 7 out of 7, but we struggle against any side managed by him,they stifled us going forward and took 2 out of probably only 4/5 real chances all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, erowl said: I think we have a real problem brewing at right back It's not as though we couldn't see what was coming when we sold Hunt Shocking decision Yet ironically a lot of fans thought Hunt was useless as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 To be fair to the lad our front three looked non existant nearly all night and our midfield three never got hold of or put any real stamp on possession, so had no real out ball that stuck or any proper cover down the right, so was exposed 2 on 1 way too often, always seems the case karanka won the tactical battle against us, yes we had beaten forest 7 out of 7, but we struggle against any side managed by him,they stifled us going forward and took 2 out of probably only 4/5 real chances all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Baker is just young and inexperienced at this level especially against the better players. But he will get better the more games he has. Just like Palmer has. Anyone see Bannan absolutely ripping into him right near the end when he throw the ball across Dawson and we lost it. Basically Bannan was saying it should have been down the line. But not in them nice words. now that just inexperience. that will come just like it has with Palmer the more games he plays. Give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Young lad who clearly isn’t ready yet, the least of our problems (and I wouldn’t actually call it a problem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 11 hours ago, theowlsman said: Missed opportunities? God give me strength. It was a load of random bodies thrown together with no real game plan, who looked clueless, without direction, and as a consequence thought feck it, I can’t be arsed. Your not seeing the opportunities (help me here I'm clutching at straws.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Groundhopping Owl said: Not seen the game - anybody care to explain what he did wrong, and what he did that was worse than Palmer on Saturday? I didnt think he was any worse than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Animis said: Indeed. Although Pudil and Hunt in their prime would be good now, we needed to improve on them at the time to progress. Hunt is now in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Defensively we're weaker than last season, though it will be interesting to see Hector play a full game. Our FBs are simply not good enough for us to be considered a team chasing a play-off place, though I accept Baker and Penney could develop into good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, malek said: Baker wasn't our biggest problem, or worst performer tonight. I was at the match and I disagree. I think the full backs were the major reason we struggled for possession and territory (aside from Reach being 10-20 yards too advanced). Its not their fault and Baker might have a decent career. I don’t think Baker made a forward pass or dribbled past an opponent in 90 minutes. Similar for Fox until the last 20 minutes. Palmer and Penney might not be perfect but they both stay wide, they both give options to get us on the front foot, they’ll both dribble past a man and they’ll both try and get in advanced positions. In essence, in comparison to Baker and Fox, Palmer and Penney get us up the pitch and give their team mates options. Edited September 20, 2018 by HirstWhoScoredIt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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