bladeshater Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.kirkbyowl Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 The choices that we have for full back are not capable of playing in an attacking wing back style. Niether Palmer or any other potential wingbacks that we have, have the ability to go past anyone and put a crosses in regularly enough so they turn back and makes the easy pass back, (loosing any forward momentum) to a central defender who when put under pressure pass back to the goalkeeper who in the end lumps it forward. If Reach plays wing back he is exposed for his defensive capabilities. The thing is why can't our head coach see what is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 This result, although pleasing will probably have little effect on the rest of the season. Really not worth throwing any toys out just yet, Enjoy the ride like always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Wasn't a classic but won and move on to the next game. Even in seasons which we look back on with affection games like last nights in early rounds of the league cup in early season are rarely brilliant games and normally forgotten a week later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 hours ago, full fathom five said: after a victory but youngsters or not, cup match or not, Jos's tactics and style of play have me deeply concerned. I was hopeful that Jos would have us as a very, very fit and well disciplined side to compensate for our obvious shortcomings in many key areas to at least give us something to cling to and maybe build upon. He's done neither. Unfortunately we are playing a negative style of what could be a positive system. Our center halfs and goalkeeper have got to be so much more comfortable in possession than what they are. Our fullbacks have got to be more proactive in both outnumbering our opponents in midfield with positive forwards movement and be able to go beyond our midfield when required, NOT turn back and pass on responsibility to others. Bannan has got to stop coming back to the edge of our penalty area and fannying about with the ball and putting us under pressure once he loses it in an area where quality sides will punish us. We are a side that lacks identity, funds or not that's the least i expected from Jos, at least put your stamp on the team. We are in serious trouble and Jos won't lead us to DCs laughable promotion. Its a very good post pal. You’ve being downvoted for being negative but it’s pretty much spot on. We do lack an identity and we are such a predictable and one paced team at the moment. In my opinion, we do need to play to our strengths and go with a front 3 and I’d play Joao and Ff either side of a central striker. This will give us pace and movement and we will be difficult to play against. Your comment about defenders being uncomfortable in possession is interesting and one that Id thought of last night. The back 3 demands defenders being able to start attacks. I’m wondering whether we should go 4-3-3 and play Lees and Pudil in the centre and bring our best prospect, Jordan Thorniley in at conventional left back. I’d bring Hutch in at defensive midfield allowing Bannan to play higher up the pitch. These are my thoughts but again, I’m still not sure on whether Jos can get this group motivated or challenged enough to have any serious attempt of reaching a playoff position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: This result, although pleasing will probably have little effect on the rest of the season. Really not worth throwing any toys out just yet, Enjoy the ride like always Quite, but I suppose the main worry would be, the timid tactics, and against a league one side What I hoped to see, was a Wednesday side getting on the front foot, and taking the game to the opposition In reality though, Jos has only ever done that once, in the final game of last season In every other game, he’s set the side up with practically a back five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Good teams win when they aren't at their best. We've won easier against lower league opposition than many of our league rivals have this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 10 hours ago, full fathom five said: after a victory but youngsters or not, cup match or not, Jos's tactics and style of play have me deeply concerned. I was hopeful that Jos would have us as a very, very fit and well disciplined side to compensate for our obvious shortcomings in many key areas to at least give us something to cling to and maybe build upon. He's done neither. Unfortunately we are playing a negative style of what could be a positive system. Our center halfs and goalkeeper have got to be so much more comfortable in possession than what they are. Our fullbacks have got to be more proactive in both outnumbering our opponents in midfield with positive forwards movement and be able to go beyond our midfield when required, NOT turn back and pass on responsibility to others. Bannan has got to stop coming back to the edge of our penalty area and fannying about with the ball and putting us under pressure once he loses it in an area where quality sides will punish us. We are a side that lacks identity, funds or not that's the least i expected from Jos, at least put your stamp on the team. We are in serious trouble and Jos won't lead us to DCs laughable promotion. Wouldn’t get too concerned about last night. Only Lees Bannan and Reach are likely to start next game. On reflection I was encouraged by the performances of Nielsen Kirby and Penney. Handled carefully they. Will develop into good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 10 hours ago, full fathom five said: after a victory but youngsters or not, cup match or not, Jos's tactics and style of play have me deeply concerned. I was hopeful that Jos would have us as a very, very fit and well disciplined side to compensate for our obvious shortcomings in many key areas to at least give us something to cling to and maybe build upon. He's done neither. Unfortunately we are playing a negative style of what could be a positive system. Our center halfs and goalkeeper have got to be so much more comfortable in possession than what they are. Our fullbacks have got to be more proactive in both outnumbering our opponents in midfield with positive forwards movement and be able to go beyond our midfield when required, NOT turn back and pass on responsibility to others. Bannan has got to stop coming back to the edge of our penalty area and fannying about with the ball and putting us under pressure once he loses it in an area where quality sides will punish us. We are a side that lacks identity, funds or not that's the least i expected from Jos, at least put your stamp on the team. We are in serious trouble and Jos won't lead us to DCs laughable promotion. I think you are being harsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Changed it at half time - we were better second half. I like Jos, he’s adaptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Jesus wept I've seen us struggle in these types of games all my Wednesday supporting life. Decent win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 14 hours ago, Beholder said: We weren't great but wins breed confidence. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, AwokenGiant said: Changed it at half time - we were better second half. I like Jos, he’s adaptable. Just wish he would start with the best formation which isn’t 352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 14 hours ago, bigash_swfc said: Anything above 16th position for me will be a bonus. I don't think he's got the tools available to achieve anything else. I am reasonably sure we will finish quite a bit higher than 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Certainly seen us slip up with better squads and poorer opposition in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Does anyone know if Jos has brought young players through at his previous clubs. At the moment he seems to be getting credit for doing something he has little choice over. He has to play the your lads and if nobody is coming in and we did have injuries he will as he said after the game. He's right to bring them through but the credit if faulse if it's only because he has no other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) I'm still on the fence...I would prefer a more attacking outlook, especially last Saturday against Hull, But.. For someone to say a manager "Hasn't put his stamp" on the side..when that particular manager can't buy any players..is plain f.ookin' daft Edited August 17, 2018 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 17/08/2018 at 14:21, Spookone said: I am reasonably sure we will finish quite a bit higher than 16th I would absolutely take 16th now and get this season over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, bigash_swfc said: I would absolutely take 16th now and get this season over with. It’s a little early to be wanting the season over isn’t it - especially when we could be in an even worse position next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Spookone said: It’s a little early to be wanting the season over isn’t it - especially when we could be in an even worse position next season. It's a season of transition, regardless of embargo. So, this today, will hopefully be a reality check and we can lower our expectations considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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