peacock1961 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 hour ago, mark1948 said: Pace? Pace? He used to play for the Blades. He lived on Bishopscourt Road Norton Lees, I used to deliver his Star and Green Un in 1963 /64. i hated him , he scored 2 for the blunts that won them the game in the first match I ever went too.........he looked old enough to be granddad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, torryowl said: i hated him , he scored 2 for the blunts that won them the game in the first match I ever went too.........he looked old enough to be granddad Yeah. He was miserable. Didn't give me a tip at Christmas either. I guess the Blue & White Scarf didn't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky belly Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) Yes we need pace. Now we don’t need headless chickens that can do the 100m in 10 seconds but can’t trap a bag of cement. but pace is absolutely vital in the modern game and there is no getting away from that. My football philosophy and the way I believe should be played is fast counter attacking football. Like Liverpool this season for example. Love that style of play. It’s breath taking when executed correctly. When I was growing up watching football in the 90’s Man U were doing it under fergie with Giggs, Sharpe, kanchelskis etc. Long throws from Schmeichel, defence to attack in 3 seconds. It’s so difficult to defend against. looking at our squad we have some quality footballers like FF and BB and Hooper when fit. The problem we have is teams can press us high and shut us down because they know there is nobody with any real pace that can run in behind them. (Lucas Joao possibly the exception) you add a couple of really pacey forwards into the team and all of a sudden the opponents defence backs off for fear of getting caught out and then your quality footballers have the space and time on the ball they need to create chances and hurt the opposition. You need a blend but yes pace is vital imho. Edited May 18, 2018 by Sticky belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Sticky belly said: Yes we need pace. Now we don’t need headless chickens that can do the 100m in 10 seconds but can’t trap a bag of cement. but pace is absolutely vital in the modern game and there is no getting away from that. My football philosophy and the way I believe should be played is fast counter attacking football. Like Liverpool this season for example. Love that style of play. It’s breath taking when executed correctly. When I was growing up watching football in the 90’s Man U were doing it under fergie with Giggs, Sharpe, kanchelskis etc. Long throws from Schmeichel, defence to attack in 3 seconds. It’s so difficult to defend against. looking at our squad we have some quality footballers like FF and BB and Hooper when fit. The problem we have is teams can press us high and shut us down because they know there is nobody with any real pace that can run in behind them. (Lucas Joao possibly the exception) you add a couple of really pacey forwards into the team and all of a sudden the opponents defence backs off for fear of getting caught out and then your quality footballers have the space and time on the ball they need to create chances and hurt the opposition. You need a blend but yes pace is vital imho. Good post. We are definitely lacking pace where it matters. Our quickest player is probably Hunt, other than him there is no pace at all in the side. It's OK having speed of thought but you also need pace on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresh Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 hours ago, room0035 said: Over the years we have had some quality wingers with no pace but the had skill to beat a man, when did you last see Reach, Wallace, Boyd dribble through players Everyone has this hang up with pace. we need a winger who can beat a man, gain a hard and put the cross into an area to score. Not sure a winger with an erection is going to be much use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvin Parsnip Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 hours ago, room0035 said: Over the years we have had some quality wingers with no pace but the had skill to beat a man, when did you last see Reach, Wallace, Boyd dribble through players Everyone has this hang up with pace. we need a winger who can beat a man, gain a hard and put the cross into an area to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 If it's pace it has to be a striker or a defender, particularly if you're going to play with wing backs. Strikers need pace to be thread through if that's the game but they've also got to know what they're doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yes most definitely If we aren’t playing with wingers, then any pace out wide will have to be through the wing backs Also, another quick option up front would be good Matias and Joao are both quick, and Forestieri is in short bursts, but another added to the group, would be ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Make the ball do the work. Its all well and good having pacy players if they are running about like headless chickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky belly Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Yes most definitely If we aren’t playing with wingers, then any pace out wide will have to be through the wing backs Also, another quick option up front would be good Matias and Joao are both quick, and Forestieri is in short bursts, but another added to the group, would be ideal I agree. I’m looking forward to seeing Matias this year under Jos, im convinced there’s a good player there at this level. A lot of people have written him off already and mention him in the same breath as Abdi and Boyd but I don’t agree. Hopefully he can get some game time and prove himself. Certainly very quick and aggressive and could fill one of those attacking roles behind the striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 5 hours ago, marshy said: It's how pace is used that's key. JJ had pace, Helan had pace yet the delivery was more often terrible. As the post above. Vardy us a great example of pace and delivery with an end product. Somewhere in the middle would be fantastic . We aren’t going to get a vardy, but please no more jj or helans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Gresh said: Not sure a winger with an erection is going to be much use I hate my ipad auto correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: Yes most definitely If we aren’t playing with wingers, then any pace out wide will have to be through the wing backs Also, another quick option up front would be good Matias and Joao are both quick, and Forestieri is in short bursts, but another added to the group, would be ideal Not sure FF is particularly that quick but what he's good at is giving himself a couple of yards start and will run in behind defenders. That means the defender has to turn around and then speed up, that takes time. Time in which FF is away Edited May 18, 2018 by pgmetcalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Paice is good, but it's out of this world when combined with Glover, Gillan, Blackmore & Lord (RIP)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Pace is very nice to have but its tempo that's more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 There are only two things that terify's a defender, having to turn and PACE. Having said that, true defenders are fast becoming a thing of the past, with the game and players being about midfield players in every position, except GK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Said this all last season. Its the one thing we desperately need. Two strong athletic pacy forwards/wing backs are essential for me if we are to gain promotion. Oh how I wish for a younger version of JJ who's not injury prone and has a footballing brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yes, we could do with a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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