pgmetcalf Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Greenhgate Owl said: anyone who thinks we're better off without Fernando,wants their head testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHA83 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, The Claw said: someone mentioned linked to a move to brighton 99% certain that Brighton aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, BHA83 said: 99% certain that Brighton aren't interested. That 1% though... Him and Knockeart sounds good on paper and potentially a nightmare in the dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ramone said: We've seen FF on song for 1 season. Last season I didn't see this passion. All I saw was a spoilt brat throwing his toys out of the pram. He was average at best last season. He's dining out on his name and a good 15-16 season. You need more than reading glasses if all you saw last season was him throwing his toys out....did you not see him scoring more goals than any other player?...was that because you weren't there or just happened to be getting a shandy while it happened or really do need better glasses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ramone said: @Ian you ok pal? It's called having a life....not everyone is glued to Owlstalk 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianowl Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 FF was our top scorer two seasons in a row, WTF is with people saying sell him? He's dynamic like all our other players aren't so why would we get rid? Yesterday it looked like we were playing a 4-3-3 after the Hutch + Loovens injuries, FF would have THRIVED in that role. We should just play like that from now on with FF/Hooper/Winnall playing the deep role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 hours ago, ramone said: You're bang on With a firing FF in our team we look a better team. He was firing in that first season. Last season he wasn't because he started causing problems by being a spoilt bobbar. Youve quite clearly never played that much football because you'd understand how a dressing room works if you have. A squad that has a bad egg in it isn't happy. An unhappy squad doesn't play to their full potential. So yes, is say FF's behaviour has some bearing on disjointed performances. But it hey what do I know, I don't have Student in my name... So... you say it has some bearing on the disjointed performances. Which is exactly what I've been saying. What I'm saying is that it isn't the only bearing, and there is Carlos who has quite a lot of bearing in how we play. You make out like I'm saying it has no bearing whatsoever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/how-forestieri-flashpoint-no-2-affected-owls-sheffield-wednesday-1-qpr-1-1-8701083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/how-forestieri-flashpoint-no-2-affected-owls-sheffield-wednesday-1-qpr-1-1-8701083 Looks predominantly like a match report to me, not 'How FF's flashpoint affected the Owls'. Headline to try and flog a crap paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, canadianowl said: FF was our top scorer two seasons in a row, WTF is with people saying sell him? He's dynamic like all our other players aren't so why would we get rid? Yesterday it looked like we were playing a 4-3-3 after the Hutch + Loovens injuries, FF would have THRIVED in that role. We should just play like that from now on with FF/Hooper/Winnall playing the deep role. He may have been our top scorer but he didnt really score enough - maybe a Rhodes, Hooper, Winnall could score more given the chance and a team tats not trying to shoehorne FF into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Ian said: If watching the likes of Reach and jones doesn't punish you then you are either happy paying to watch mediocre players draw with QPR or you don't go Your not the bafoon that sits in row 12 of the north stand are never heard a more negative supporter with so little knowledge of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Spookone said: He may have been our top scorer but he didnt really score enough - maybe a Rhodes, Hooper, Winnall could score more given the chance and a team tats not trying to shoehorne FF into it. May Didn't really Maybe Given the chance Sounds definitive to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Be reyt anyway. He'll be back in the squad on Wednesday and Winnall will be in the stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, canadianowl said: FF was our top scorer two seasons in a row, WTF is with people saying sell him? He's dynamic like all our other players aren't so why would we get rid? Yesterday it looked like we were playing a 4-3-3 after the Hutch + Loovens injuries, FF would have THRIVED in that role. We should just play like that from now on with FF/Hooper/Winnall playing the deep role. We should but Carlos won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Manchester_Owl said: You keep on referring back to his antics last season. Ok let's do that, just so that we can get everything into perspective, but let's include everything, right!? Was our top scorer season 1. Fact. Was our most exciting player first season 1. Subjective. Was our most dangerous player season 1. Subjective. Has been photographed watching the development squad, season 1. Fact. Refused to play against Villa. Season 2. Speculation. Played against Villa season 2. Fact. Scored against Villa season 2, despite speculation of him not wanting to play. Fact. Was on less money than Fletcher, despite being our main player and not being happy about it. Speculation. Refused to Travel to play against against Norwich season 2. Speculation/fact. Made to apologise to the fans. Fact Apologised to the fans and the club. Fact. Made to look like a wounded dog season 2. Subjective. Was the top goal scorer season 2. Fact. Was our most exciting player season 2. Subjective. Missed pen at Brighton away where the whole side crumbled despite having a real opportunity to get 3 points from a promotion rival. Fact. When benched at Newcastle at home (due to injuries) was dying to get on the pitch. Season 2. Fact. Scored a cracking goal at Forest away showing determination and desire to succeed. Season 2. Subjective. Jumped into the away crowed when he scored at Forest away. Season 2. Fact. Scored a flying header against Cardiff at home to beat Warnocks ridged side. Season 2. Fact. Missed pen in the playoffs. Fact. Came back/rushed from an injury in the playoffs. Speculation. Was one of our better players Preston away. Season 3. Subjective. Refused to play wide left. Season 3 Speculation. Manager states he did not refuse to play out wide. Fact. He tracks back more than most players. Season 1/2/3. Subjective. He had an altercation with another player over a bad/late tackle season 3. Speculation. He was dropped from the squad yesterday because of that altercation Speculation. Now..... Go through that list and weigh up the facts against the speculations and the subjective views. You may come to the conclusion that your treatment or should I say anger towards Fernando Forestieri is an overreaction. It's the type of overaction (because of how social media gets us close to the players) drives the players out of the club. This is only reason why I'm even bothering replying to some of you. As I hope to dilute the guilty first ask questions last mentality. I'll never use those condoms again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, sage owl said: Your not the bafoon that sits in row 12 of the north stand are never heard a more negative supporter with so little knowledge of the game. What seat number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, rickygoo said: What seat number? I could I suppose but it would be really bad form wouldn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 11 hours ago, Grandad said: 26 pages of mostly bile and conjecture aimed at attacking our most valuable player in the last 2 play off campaigns I bet you lot loved Andy Booth or Chris OGrady The best managers can handle the best players. Didn't you start a thread saying you would sell him before this had happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 If he didn't start on Sat for the training ground reasons then can't see how he'll suddenly start midweek (unless he can play CB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetherave Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: Top journalist and broadcaster. Even better than Biggsy. Following exhaustive research ........ is that not a little incongruous to say at the least ....... working for RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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