TheEnchanter Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I've said it before on here but our full backs do the hardest job in the team in my opinion. We rely on them to be our attacking width as Wallace will often cut inside. But then we rely on them to be back in position to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Interesting that we were having similar discussions following the play off final at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: I've said it before on here but our full backs do the hardest job in the team in my opinion. We rely on them to be our attacking width as Wallace will often cut inside. But then we rely on them to be back in position to defend. Think you're spot on with this. I'd also add that teams who generally use their fullbacks to provide the width play with defensive midfielders dropping in as cover when the fullbacks are caught high up the pitch - we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuntItLikeDielna Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Hunt, Lee, Wallace and Hooper are our best attacking combination, the amount of times they link up together to create chances is unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 hours ago, vulva said: Hunt, like Reach, isn't a fullback or winger. They are tailor made for the wing back role. New centre half, Lees, Hutch back 3. Hunt and Reach wing backs. Hell yeah my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 hunts crap plays few above average games and he's the next cafu to some new rb required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 8 hours ago, damianb1 said: We don't have 1 decent full back at the club! Absolutely correct. We need at least 2 full backs this summer. Its our weakest area by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bark1062 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 14 hours ago, Ali G said: Early on in the season thought he had some terrible games, but fair play to him in the last 5-6 games he did really well. I personally think we need to ship Palmer out and bring in another full back to Challenge Hunt Need to get a full back in to replace Hunt, not good enough either in attack or defence. Often gets caught out at the back, going forward one dimensional does the same thing every time, often losing the ball and leaving us vulnerable in behind in the gaping hole he has left, highlighted in both playoff games when izzy brown missed two sitters, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Triplo Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 2017-6-3 at 16:36, GHS said: I agree. Hunt is more than capable, especially if we dare go to Chelsea 3-4-3 He'd be great in that Moses position. Reach on the opposite. I think we should go 3-4-3 next year. We have the perfect players for this formation already. Add 4-5 more quality players and it could work even better. Carlos likes his 4-4-2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 16 hours ago, trev said: Absolutely correct. We need at least 2 full backs this summer. Its our weakest area by a mile. I think lack of pace and creativity on the wings is the weakest area by a mile in our 442 system. In the run of 6 wins I thought people were fine with Pudil and Hunt's performances. But the amount of chances created for our very decent strikers is worse than poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Paul Triplo said: I think we should go 3-4-3 next year. We have the perfect players for this formation already. Add 4-5 more quality players and it could work even better. Carlos likes his 4-4-2 though. We've got a perfect sweeper in Hutch. I'd go like Reading did with 2 up top and a Attaching midfielder supporting them. Abdi is that man imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Paul Triplo said: Carlos likes his 4-4-2 though. Which is strange considering he came here with a 4-3-3 philosophy. Fully agree with going 3-4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, GHS said: We've got a perfect sweeper in Hutch. I'd go like Reading did with 2 up top and a Attaching midfielder supporting them. Abdi is that man imo. I think there is a strong possibility of a switch in system/formation this season. Don't see the logic in keeping with 4-4-2 with Hutch invariably moving between the centre backs and our wingers tucking in and essentially been centre mids. Juve played 3-4-1-2 last night and this could be a formation that suits us. Certainly, you would get the best out of Hunt and Reach as I see them both as wing backs and Hutch is tailor made as the sweeper in the middle of the back 3. He would be the one to bring the ball out of defence and also to play long diagonal balls. Abdi or FF could both play the role of just behind the front 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: I think there is a strong possibility of a switch in system/formation this season. Don't see the logic in keeping with 4-4-2 with Hutch invariably moving between the centre backs and our wingers tucking in and essentially been centre mids. Juve played 3-4-1-2 last night and this could be a formation that suits us. Certainly, you would get the best out of Hunt and Reach as I see them both as wing backs and Hutch is tailor made as the sweeper in the middle of the back 3. He would be the one to bring the ball out of defence and also to play long diagonal balls. Abdi or FF could both play the role of just behind the front 2 100% my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: I think there is a strong possibility of a switch in system/formation this season. Don't see the logic in keeping with 4-4-2 with Hutch invariably moving between the centre backs and our wingers tucking in and essentially been centre mids. Juve played 3-4-1-2 last night and this could be a formation that suits us. Certainly, you would get the best out of Hunt and Reach as I see them both as wing backs and Hutch is tailor made as the sweeper in the middle of the back 3. He would be the one to bring the ball out of defence and also to play long diagonal balls. Abdi or FF could both play the role of just behind the front 2 Is FF any good in that role? I genuinely have no idea. He hasn't played it for us. In and out of the Watford line-up for 3 seasons. Did he play that role often for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Holmowl said: Is FF any good in that role? I genuinely have no idea. He hasn't played it for us. In and out of the Watford line-up for 3 seasons. Did he play that role often for them? He played the left of a front 3 and that is his best position in my opinion. I do agree with you he is best coming from a wider area but without the defensive responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Bouncing Owl said: He played the left of a front 3 and that is his best position in my opinion. I do agree with you he is best coming from a wider area but without the defensive responsibility. Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 If the thoughi is he's good then we've no chance of autos Unreliable at defending and his attacking balls are woeful. We need better full backs if we're to progress. Give Reach some defensive training over the summer and he may be an option. The 4/5 players we need : Right back, Centre back, Right winger, midfield barstard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Get rid of hunt (who's been good most of the season) but cry for semedo leaving. Only on owlstalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlin' Wolf Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 03/06/2017 at 07:36, GHS said: I agree. Hunt is more than capable, especially if we dare go to Chelsea 3-4-3 He'd be great in that Moses position. Reach on the opposite. Can see what you're saying but I don't think he'd be that great. He rarely delivers a good cross and I think most people who say he's great going forward only do so based on the fact he's poor defensively and is pretty quick. I don't think any of our full backs are good enough, as back up possibly but no first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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