Dan™ Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, ViolaOwls said: Funny that as the monarchy is loved everywhere else round the world except the leftie british haters living in erm.....britain So because you are presumably saying there are more people around the world in favour of monarchies that makes them right and just does it? 18 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Our royal family bring in millions of pounds to our economy from tourism Any sources for this? Has a serious economic study ever even been done on it? Not that it would particularly matter if they did bring in millions from tourism, that doesn't excuse arbitrarily giving millions of quid a year to a random family just for the sake of tradition. If it did we might as well pick a few more families around the country to give them a big house and make them multi-millionaires, get some more tourists in if it's a profitable business model. How anyone can be in favour of such a concept when we haven't even solved the basics of homelessness yet is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda800 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, RichieB said: All I could think after reading that was thank god were not playing Leeds on Saturday. they would ruin it for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 22 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Would they though? Versailles is different as it's a huge historical place in the past 100-200 years. As opposed to London which popped up over a bank holiday weekend back in the early 60's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 40 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Our royal family bring in millions of pounds to our economy from tourism Didn't realise all those tourists get to meet them face to face... All those historical buildings, history etc would still be there even if we got rid of the Royal family. Plenty of people go to France, despite the fact that they decided to get rid and chop off a few heads a few centuries back. The concept of a bunch of well endowed inbreds ruling over a population is somewhat antiquated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm going to Thailand next week. Got loads of black clobber packed just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG_1984 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I've nothing against it but it is a bit weird. I just hope to god that our fans honour it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Sam779 said: I don't mean weird in a disrespectful way. Won't it seem a bit strange having 25,000 English people at a football match listening to their anthem and watching a montage? I too find it a bit weird, not sure it would be the same the other way, oh well it's only a minute I suppose. I'm guessing it's more a case of being disrespectful to their King if they didn't mark the occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: I'm going to Thailand next week. Got loads of black clobber packed just in case Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam779 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: I too find it a bit weird, not sure it would be the same the other way, oh well it's only a minute I suppose. I'm guessing it's more a case of being disrespectful to their King if they didn't mark the occasion. It's 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 44 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Would they though? Versailles is different as it's a huge historical place in the past 100-200 years. There's all them commemorate plates that they sell too to Americans usually Turn Buckingham Palace into a museum. Open up the gardens for tourists. Cash would be rolling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, panda800 said: they would ruin it for sure Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, PeteG_1984 said: I've nothing against it but it is a bit weird. I just hope to god that our fans honour it I'm sure they will. 2 minutes seems a bit excessive for something that means absolutely roger all to the vast majority of our fans but it's the world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sam779 said: It's 2 minutes. Samantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KivoOwl Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) . Edited October 20, 2016 by KivoOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ViolaOwls said: Funny that as the monarchy is loved everywhere else round the world except the leftie british haters living in erm.....britain nowt to do with lefties really in Britain though is it, more to do with pro republicans primarily in Northern Ireland and Scotland who want independence. Anyway the point made was the King there is extremely popular and changed Thailand beyond recognition. So I would assume DC and family are no different in their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 55 minutes ago, Dan™ said: Any sources for this? Has a serious economic study ever even been done on it? Not exactly answering the question, but some data here: https://republic.org.uk/what-we-want/monarchy-myth-buster/its-good-tourism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, notts0wl said: Fair enough. Sign of respect towards our chairman, hope everyone is respectful on the day. It is a bit odd in a way but then I don't pretend to understand Thai culture. As long as I can understand most of a Thai menu I'll settle for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Thing is....under Thai law, anyone saying something deemed "derogatory" against the Thai monarchy can face up to 15 years in jail. Not the sort of society I'd care to live in - in fact GB has a long track record fighting very successfully against such things - and so I am not sure why SWFC supporters should respect a minute's service in support of such a draconian and - whatever way you slice it - foreign regime The Thai system has a 'strong' monarchy and religion, with a 'weak' democracy (as proven by the fact Thailand has so many military coups, including a ruling military government right now) and a media that is not 'free', relative to western standards. This all inevitably results in the Thai-Chino elite keeping control of power throughout the country, and a tax system that relies not on collective responsibility, but on personal under-the-table payments to grease the wheels (that pale against anything Brian Clough may be of accused of). The Thai ruling elite decide not to invest in educating the majority of its population's children - thus perpetuating a society that is in the whole uneducated, slavish to a Buddhist doctrine that is essentially superstition-based, scared and therefore kept in check by the status quo at the top Chansiri may own the club, and I am grateful for all that he has contributed - without forgetting he is running a business - yet he doesn't own the people who support Wednesday, and whilst any compassionate person should respect the passing of a monarch and respect Chansiri's country as well as Chansiri himself, nobody in the UK can be compelled to respect a minute's silence Personally, the minute's silence for this is not as culturally relevant to me as, say, holding a minutes silence for Aberfan Edited October 20, 2016 by owlandished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, ViolaOwls said: Funny that as the monarchy is loved everywhere else round the world except the leftie british haters living in erm.....britain It's not question of hating. In my opinion the monarchy is an outdated institution and should be consigned to history. I'm sure individual members of the Royal family are OK people. I will respect the two minutes silence on Saturday as I will when the Queen dies, as will millions around the world. I just don't agree with having a Royal family but I don't hate them or anyone else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashamanic Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Two minutes is excessive, I doubt there is any U.K. Figure who would get that but Chanari has totally transformed Wednesday so it isn't unreasonable to just acquiesce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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