The Night-Owl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Newcastle and Norwich will walk the League. They'll be out of our reach, especially Newcastle. But we should compete with the other challengers, quite comfortably. I still hope we'll bring in Guedioura and McCormack or similar to have a real go at top 2. My belief is that DC will go for it after last season. With one or two big signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Ince has been tripe at Derby. Only seen Reach in the games against us but he looks a quality player to me. Very good touch , good movement and seemed to work hard. The kind of intelligent player Carlos likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Reach and Forshaw are both improvements on what we have now. Do it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Milan Missing Marble said: Newcastle and Norwich will walk the League. They'll be out of our "reach", especially Newcastle. But we should compete with the other challengers, quite comfortably. I still hope we'll bring in Guedioura and McCormack or similar to have a real go at top 2. My belief is that DC will go for it after last season. With one or two big signings. I like what you did there... Pun of the day. 6 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Ince has been tripe at Derby. Only seen Reach in the games against us but he looks a quality player to me. Very good touch , good movement and seemed to work hard. The kind of intelligent player Carlos likes I wouldn't call 12 goals and 7 assists from a winger 'tripe'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 21 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: He's not a big name but I'd be pleased if we got him in. If it's big names we're after, we should be looking at Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Kévin Théophile-Catherine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Andrija Zivkovic still yet to find a club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If it's big names we're after, we should be looking at Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Kévin Théophile-Catherine. Scrabble champs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 We're being linked with players who have championship experience and some of these players happen to have international experience. Reach and Forshaw just happen to have experience of a championship set-up that is now is in the premier league. Not the eye-catching targets we may have expected but targets that should keep us at least at the level we currently are. Their's a lot of talk about challenging the top two but with big hitters that have come down from the prem and the already established contenders it's going to be very difficult to finish there in there. I think sensible recruitment is the way forward. DC looks to have the money to invest but at the same time has a touch of the Mandaric's about him in the sense that he won't pay over the odds. This policy will attract both critiscism and respect from the fanbase but as long as you can get the balance right and recruit well, it'll be well received by the majority. As I've posted before our recruitment last season as key to the season we had and it was money in the main that was well spent. I would expect similar this time around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: We're being linked with players who have championship experience and some of these players happen to have international experience. Reach and Forshaw just happen to have experience of a championship set-up that is now is in the premier league. Not the eye-catching targets we may have expected but targets that should keep us at least at the level we currently are. Their's a lot of talk about challenging the top two but with big hitters that have come down from the prem and the already established contenders it's going to be very difficult to finish there in there. I think sensible recruitment is the way forward. DC looks to have the money to invest but at the same time has a touch of the Mandaric's about him in the sense that he won't pay over the odds. This policy will attract both critiscism and respect from the fanbase but as long as you can get the balance right and recruit well, it'll be well received by the majority. As I've posted before our recruitment last season as key to the season we had and it was money in the main that was well spent. I would expect similar this time around? I agree that we'll probably sign a few players that leave some fans underwhelmed, but that doesn't necessarily mean we won't be challenging for the top two. Cast your mind back to Bannan's arrival - many on here were questioning the logic in signing him and some saw him as a backup player at best. With a full season in English football under his belt, I'm sure Carlos will have identified players who he thinks can come in, improve our squad, and fit into the style he wants us to play. Sometimes a player clicks with a certain managers's footballing philosophy, and sometimes a manager spots the opportunity to use a player in a particular system which others haven't tried. Just because Reach and Forshaw may not be the biggest names in Championship football isn't to say they wouldn't potentially be great signings for us, and if Carlos wants them (I'll take anything reported in The Sun with a pinch of salt) then I assume it's because he has a clear idea of how they can push us higher up the league table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 From what I've seen, Reach is decent, but nothing special. Would be a step up from Helan and also address the issue of having to put FF or Bannan on the left I suppose. Is Forshaw as good or better than Lopez? Not for me. Seem more like steady signings than having a go at the top 2 tbh. But I trust Carlos knows what he's doing, if indeed this is even true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeakOwl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Isn't Reach predominantly a left-sided winger? I'd have thought with FF, we arguably need a good (fast) right-winger? Callum McManaman (still only 25) is reportedly available for around £3m and would give us something completely different to what we currently have (though I see in the link below, Derby are already interested!) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-rumour-derby-retain-11524280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I like the look of this. Hooper Fletcher Forestieri Bannan Lee Reach This is significantly stronger than the end of last season, and hugely better than how we started the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Could be good. Not convinced we're gonna get the midfield powerhouse many of us wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsend Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I hate to say it but the next four signings. I think will be all loans with option to buy....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 all rumours at this stage deals will start in July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) 55 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If it's big names we're after, we should be looking at Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Kévin Théophile-Catherine. More of a Ricky Van Wolfswinkel fan myself mate Edited June 26, 2016 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: More of a Ricky Van Wolfswinkel fan myself mate Jan Vennegor of Hesselink for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 hour ago, StudentOwl said: Andrija Zivkovic still yet to find a club... Not sure a female tennis player from Belarus is an upgrade on what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Just now, Holmowl said: Not sure a female tennis player from Belarus is an upgrade on what we have. I mean, you try and be funny, but when you google his name the first result that comes up is the footballer In fact, nowhere on the first three pages of google is there a reference to the person you're saying. Is it even a real person? Are you trying to be funny? I don't know any more, I'm just surprised your post didn't mention 4-4-2 with Bannan and Lee in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Don't forget the Spanish Armada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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