Hawkeye Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 6 hours ago, gurujuan said: I guess, if they all got a starting berth, we might line up something like this Westwood Hunt Pudil Lees Hanley Bannan Reach Forshaw Fletcher Hooper Forestieri Perhaps, not quite what we wanted, but none too shabby either Firstly, our core players should be starting next year, evolution not revolution was the view from cc. And I'd expect us to look fairly similar to last season. Westwood Hunt Lees Wallace Lee Bannan Forestieri Hooper So it's adding to that. Does Loovens need replacing? Not really, and not for £5m, but competition and cover is needed. Pudil in again at left back would be my first choice, and cover is needed there. Fletcher would be a great partner for hooper, with joao potentially also being in the mix. So really, a 2nd choice left back, a bigger centre mid, 2nd choice wingers, a striker and possibly one centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Reach played left wing and left back all last season. So could he and Fernando play in the same side? He did yes, but Wallace is also a left winger, who plays on the right. I'd imagine we'd utilise Reach Iin the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 31 minutes ago, Milan Missing Marble said: So Nixon thinks we're not gonna go for it this summer or go for top two and we're gonna spend more on defence than attack? Nixon doesn't seem very clued up at all and probably knows as little about DC and CC's transfer activity as we do. Naff all. In fact, Newcastle are in the running to get Hanley and stand more chance of signing him. And if we're going to challenge top two then its midfield and attack that need addressing and where money needs to be spent in order to compete with the likes of the relegated sides and Derby. Your sentiments are similar to those of Wily, and mine. We don't know if Nicko is right on this, so that's why I said, let's pretend that he is, then how would we feel. To be honest, at first I was even a little sniffy about Fletcher, until I had a word with myself. All are signings that would improve us, and all address issues that we had problems with last season. I guess I hoped for better, or more exotic signings, but if it turned out to be those five, then realistically, we'd have done some good business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Firstly, our core players should be starting next year, evolution not revolution was the view from cc. And I'd expect us to look fairly similar to last season. Westwood Hunt Lees Wallace Lee Bannan Forestieri Hooper So it's adding to that. Does Loovens need replacing? Not really, and not for £5m, but competition and cover is needed. Pudil in again at left back would be my first choice, and cover is needed there. Fletcher would be a great partner for hooper, with joao potentially also being in the mix. So really, a 2nd choice left back, a bigger centre mid, 2nd choice wingers, a striker and possibly one centre back. I think this is a really good summary of where we should be at the start of the season, though I would still start the season with Lee and Bannan in the middle. We do need a quality player to cover and challenge these two, now that Lopez has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Forshaw and Reach are both very good, Championship-experienced players who would certainly improve our squad. If we think back to the playoff final for example, I'd have been much happier to see Adam Reach coming off the bench (or Ross Wallace if Reach had started the game) than Jérémy Hélan. There's a decent little article on Reach's loan spell at Preston here: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/how-middlesbrough-fc-winger-adam-11147008 Of all the names linked so far though, Steven Fletcher is the one that really stands out; I just think the experience and quality he'd bring to our front line could be the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 And if those five came in to replace five say, Dielna, Lachman, Vermijl, Bus and Lavery, then nobody could say we hadn't strengthened the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Your sentiments are similar to those of Wily, and mine. We don't know if Nicko is right on this, so that's why I said, let's pretend that he is, then how would we feel. To be honest, at first I was even a little sniffy about Fletcher, until I had a word with myself. All are signings that would improve us, and all address issues that we had problems with last season. I guess I hoped for better, or more exotic signings, but if it turned out to be those five, then realistically, we'd have done some good business To be fair the two Middlesboro lads tie in, sort of with last summers recruitment. With the pursuit of promoted Watford players. From what I've read, it sounds like Newcastle are favourites to get Hanley and want to partner him with Caulker. Personally not sure about the level of improvement, those signings would provide. I'd be happy with the two Middlesboro players, if they give us a similar impact as the Watford players did last season. I still feel, DC will go for it more. And expect exciting things to happen this summer. I'd be surprised if we didn't spend fairly big on a striker or a midfielder. And I'd be surprised if we didn't go back in for Adlene Guedioura? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Of course the other thing, while I'd be happy with those five, if indeed it was them, most of our rivals will be making similar improvements Most likely, some will be doing significantly more. So we may have a better squad than last season, but won't necessarily improve our chances of automatic. From an entertainment point of view though, we'll be watching better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Task Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Where's the idea that we are only going to sign the Nixon 5 come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 I like Adam Forshaw, excellent player. I'm sure we are interested in many player Nixon hasn't mentioned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, Random Task said: Where's the idea that we are only going to sign the Nixon 5 come from? Nowhere really, just speculating on the ones he's suggested. As for "only", again just going on what Carlos said about evolution, not revolution. Maybe he's fibbing, and we will bring in more, we don't know what will happen, even Nicko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Task Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Nowhere really, just speculating on the ones he's suggested. As for "only", again just going on what Carlos said about evolution, not revolution. Maybe he's fibbing, and we will bring in more, we don't know what will happen, even Nicko Thats alright then. Evolution not revolution could mean signing 3-4 first teamers and then 4-5 squad players, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, Random Task said: Thats alright then. Evolution not revolution could mean signing 3-4 first teamers and then 4-5 squad players, to be fair. Think you're pushing it a bit there, adding potentially, 9 players to the squad, seems more like revolution to me though. Dunno, as long as we address the areas where we were short, and have adequate cover, that'll do me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Reach and forshaw 2 decent ish players think we just need a bit more quality but reach is very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Reach is quality, shame thats just a loan, not even heard of the other lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 We learnt of Forshaw last Sunday. Said at the time, he'd be a decent alternative to Lopez. I still believe that. Played a significant part in Boro's promotion last season. A very tidy player. Reach...I'm not so familiar with. I understand he's just had a decent season at Preston, and was part of Boro's team that went all the way to playoff final year before - so can't be too shabby. Does anyone have The Sun article, or is it just a short one-liner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 9 hours ago, gurujuan said: I think both would make decent squad players, but I'd like to see a bit more quality when it comes to strengthening the starting eleven Reach destroyed us at times for Boro and was a handful at PNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Decent article with a PNE fan discussing reach. Talks of his versatility. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/how-middlesbrough-fc-winger-adam-11147008 from what I've seen of him he is like a traditional winger, but quite tall so has that gangly side to him. He was gliding past our defenders for Boro and putting some mint crosses in. I think he scored too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Reach destroyed us at times for Boro and was a handful at PNE Gimme the lowdown on him. Is he top 2 material? Would he be as useful to us as Tom Ince is to Derby, for example? Would he help bridge the gap to the likes of Newcastle when they spend their thunderbucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Well Boro didn't think so. But in terms of adding a new dimension to what we have ie someone with pace who will look to stretch a team and put a ball across I think it would be another one that ticks the shrewd box. you could spend money on downing for example to get the bookies excited, but there's the risk he may not be that bothered. Whereas Reach has had two relatively successful seasons and is on the rise in the background. He's not a big name but I'd be pleased if we got him in. I don't think he'd be quite the same as Tom Ince though who seems to want to do a bit of everything ie be a winger and a striker and he doesn't score as many. But I think we have others who can score goals. i know jack hunts defensive game has been criticised but that one sided first half at Hillsboro against Boro. Everyone looked for downing to shine but it was reach who gave us a real headache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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