4evaowl Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 hours ago, bolton9owl said: Week in week out we read articles and reports that the support we give the team especially away from Hillsborough is exceptional for League 1 and yes it is without doubt we have some of the best supporters outside the Premier League. But I can’t help feeling that all the effort and the cost of traveling to places like Peterborough on a Tuesday night is not fully appreciated by the management of Sheffield Wednesday. We travel miles to see our talented squad play attacking fearless football and cause our opposition problems from the kickoff but repeatedly the team selection and playing style just infuriates the fans. Yes he’s a nice bloke but his failure to learn from his mistakes is beginning to make some fans question if we will ever get out of this league under his management. As a lifelong supporter I want to see the team set up to attack and that doesn’t include having 5 players at the back so come on Darren recognize that you have one of the best squads on the division and your defensive tactics are now starting to wear just a bit thin Wednesday fans do deserve better than a third division club but, because of the way the club has been run, we as a club are probably where we deserve to be. It was the same in the 1970s. We used to take over smaller grounds in the Third Division with our excellent support, but teams were either better than us, or they were so up for it (as it was their Cup Final) it took 5 years to get out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Buck Rogers said: Fizz's wonder goals got us out of jail. wonder goals don't count as real goals...everyone knows that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leggy Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 hours ago, @owlstalk said: True Thats one night though We are an attacking side with an attacking manager Very true but if you set up like we did last night out to probably snatch a point and the defence can't deal with crossers, then basically your screwed. DM set the team up as if he was scared to death of Peterborough and it backfired big style. That's not the sign of an attacking team or manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Which is all well and goid, but if you can't defend keep conceding the way we do, the attacking threat is irrelevant mate. How do you explain the second half of last season tho? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 hours ago, bolton9owl said: Week in week out we read articles and reports that the support we give the team especially away from Hillsborough is exceptional for League 1 and yes it is without doubt we have some of the best supporters outside the Premier League. But I can’t help feeling that all the effort and the cost of traveling to places like Peterborough on a Tuesday night is not fully appreciated by the management of Sheffield Wednesday. We travel miles to see our talented squad play attacking fearless football and cause our opposition problems from the kickoff but repeatedly the team selection and playing style just infuriates the fans. Yes he’s a nice bloke but his failure to learn from his mistakes is beginning to make some fans question if we will ever get out of this league under his management. As a lifelong supporter I want to see the team set up to attack and that doesn’t include having 5 players at the back so come on Darren recognize that you have one of the best squads on the division and your defensive tactics are now starting to wear just a bit thin I was one of those travelling fans yesterday I thought our game plan looked decent up until the wrongful dismissal we looked the better team and Peterborough looked little threat going into the second half with bench we had only looked favourable to us then that awful decision put us down to ten we kept battling and thought our lads did really well but the inevitable happened and there was no way back nobody but the referee can be criticised yesterday it spoiled a good and relatively even game of football let’s not get knee jerk for losing to one of the automatic contenders at their place on a stormy midweek night when we’ve only got 10 men take the result away our lads worked like troopers and did us proud referee needs sacking shocking performance in more than one decisions that clown utter shocking 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I wonder if some fans buy a book, then at the end of each page shout "THIS IS A RUBBISH BOOK. THIS BOOK IS RUBBISH" because they didn't like what had happened in that page? Only to get to the end of the book to find out it wasn't that bad at all and in fact was quite good and enjoyable, but they'd spend the whole reading time moaning about individual pages? 1 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, fpowl said: let’s not get knee jerk for losing to one of the automatic contenders at their place on a stormy midweek night when we’ve only got 10 men take the result away our lads worked like troopers and did us proud Yep...spot on the ref changed the game just as we were taking control that's football peeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 7 hours ago, @owlstalk said: How do you explain the second half of last season tho? i can't...thats what makes the "Start" of this one..even more baffling mate tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 17 hours ago, @owlstalk said: True Thats one night though We are an attacking side with an attacking manager The comment was made re away matches and we are not an attacking force away from home. Had we been last season we would have gone up automatically IMO. Our so-called attacking manager's negativity also contributed largely to the play-off defeat. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: The comment was made re away matches and we are not an attacking force away from home. Had we been last season we would have gone up automatically IMO. Our so-called attacking manager's negativity also contributed largely to the play-off defeat. Got ya Yeah I hear you Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 11 hours ago, markg said: eh? We scored 3 in one game dind't we? Eh? Last three league games we’ve scored 1,1 and 0. That’s 2 goals in the last three league games one of which was a penalty. So, as I said one goal from open play in the last three league games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfsmith Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Our loyal fans deserve more but our disloyal ones deserve less. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton9owl Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 hours ago, @owlstalk said: How do you explain the second half of last season tho? The second half of last season has been and gone - if you can’t see the problem you are watching with rose tinted glasses. The case is now and a five man defense tells the opposition we are scared to death of their attacking force and there lies the problem. We have possibly one of the best squads in L1 and yet we line up with 5 players creating a defensive wall and all that does is give the oppositions oceans of room for them to cause us problems and it invariably does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 hours ago, fpowl said: I was one of those travelling fans yesterday I thought our game plan looked decent up until the wrongful dismissal we looked the better team and Peterborough looked little threat going into the second half with bench we had only looked favourable to us then that awful decision put us down to ten we kept battling and thought our lads did really well but the inevitable happened and there was no way back nobody but the referee can be criticised yesterday it spoiled a good and relatively even game of football let’s not get knee jerk for losing to one of the automatic contenders at their place on a stormy midweek night when we’ve only got 10 men take the result away our lads worked like troopers and did us proud referee needs sacking shocking performance in more than one decisions that clown utter shocking We can’t blame the ref for two goals scored by opposition players in the middle of our box near the 6 yard line having unchallenged headers and being able to pick their spot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 21 hours ago, @owlstalk said: True Thats one night though We are an attacking side with an attacking manager Attacking manager..oh mi ribs.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 20 hours ago, @owlstalk said: How do you explain the second half of last season tho? The second half of the season where we took 18 from 39 away league points, winning 5 out of 13 away games and added to that a playoff away defeat? Our away tactics are negative and that that is down to the manager. Nothing seems to have changed this season in his approach so it’s just not going to to give us enough points to get into the top 2. Often when we take the lead away we sit back instead of going for it - it’s hurting us and we don’t seem to want to adjust. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, Daz said: The second half of the season where we took 18 from 39 away league points, winning 5 out of 13 away games and added to that a playoff away defeat? Our away tactics are negative and that that is down to the manager. Nothing seems to have changed this season in his approach so it’s just not going to to give us enough points to get into the top 2. Often when we take the lead away we sit back instead of going for it - it’s hurting us and we don’t seem to want to adjust. Yes fair points Daz actually if you look at the away form Thank you - I’d not thought of that to be fair. Was just excited by the upturn in the second half of last season that gave us a real chance But like you say it was the home form that did that and the away form still was well off 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 9 hours ago, brando said: Attacking manager..oh mi ribs.. At home for sure yes 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1981 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 21 hours ago, fpowl said: I was one of those travelling fans yesterday I thought our game plan looked decent up until the wrongful dismissal we looked the better team and Peterborough looked little threat going into the second half with bench we had only looked favourable to us then that awful decision put us down to ten we kept battling and thought our lads did really well but the inevitable happened and there was no way back nobody but the referee can be criticised yesterday it spoiled a good and relatively even game of football let’s not get knee jerk for losing to one of the automatic contenders at their place on a stormy midweek night when we’ve only got 10 men take the result away our lads worked like troopers and did us proud referee needs sacking shocking performance in more than one decisions that clown utter shocking Agree. However every team knows how weak we are down our left hand side, yet DM doesn't do anything to change this. So far this season both Pompey's manager and now Peterboroughs manager have both commented about targeting our left hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 17/08/2022 at 06:18, markg said: Credit to Moore for changing the system Credit to Darren for lots of things mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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