HopefulOwl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: its not really opinion mate is it? The club offered a refund, he took it up. The club didn't add a caveat that taking the refund would debar fans from further ticket purchases, its simply plain wrong, underhand and petty its morally wrong on all levels.. imagine taking something back to a shop for a refund cos it was broke to be told you cant ever buy from them again... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Of course the club are perfectly within their rights but that is a totally different thing to being the right thing to do. The relationship between fans and club should be different to a simple commercial relationship. Edited July 29, 2022 by OxonOwl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: It isn’t about taking the refund, thousands took that option, and the same thousands have been allowed to purchase season tickets again, it’s just the one person who took the club to court who hasn’t been allowed. Sure. But he took the club to court because they hadn’t paid the refund or communicated about it. Might not be what everyone would do but he did what he felt was right. DC is within his rights not to sell to him but it’s a petty ‘cutting your nose off to spite your face’ kind of revenge that only really makes DC look childish rather that a man of integrity. It’s not a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Who says I’m not annoyed at the club about how the handled it? I can just see it from their point of view- Wednesday didn’t have to offer a refund (a lot of other clubs didn’t), then when they did and explained the procedure would take time, they’re getting taken to court over something they outlined (the timeframe). I’d be annoyed too. Im sure if any company treat you like the way the club has treat the fans over the refund issue youd be up In arms about it - surely? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 - I don't like the way the club handled the refunds - I understand that some people would take the club to court for that - It's sad that the club reacts like this However - If it take legal action against anybody, I do not expect to ever do business with them. Usually as soon as you take somebody to court you accept that this will be the end of your relationship (business or personal). I am far to resentful to forgive anybody any legal action against me, but I would have hoped that the club or owner would be more professional or forgiving. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcAH Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Are the club legally allowed to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 More unnecessary negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: Im sure if any company treat you like the way the club has treat the fans over the refund issue youd be up In arms about it - surely? Depends if I knew beforehand if it was going to be a slow drawn out process; like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, the golden bullen said: Which they would have got eventually once cash flow issues were sorted. Communication from the club was clear that it would take time to process. Yes they hid behind system issues which were clearly cash flow issues imo but we were all in it together as you said to help the club out at that difficult time. Still not sure how the club had cash flow problems that prevented it from paying back supporters but still was giving out new lucrative contracts and signing up players on reported Championship wages? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 So much sanctimonious virtue signalling on here. Its a simple dispute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, swfcAH said: Are the club legally allowed to do this? Course they are. They don’t have to offer an explanation or reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: when they did and explained the procedure would take time, they’re getting taken to court over something they outlined (the timeframe). What was the timeframe they gave? when did they announce that time frame? were all refunds done to that time frame? if not were those still waiting issued with updates and new timeframe? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 not taking sides here, but from reading the article it seems that they haven't been told they're banned, they just said it wasn't possible to do the season ticket on the day they went for it are we absolutely certain that they are banned or is it just a case of poor communication from the club office again, something we've all encountered from time to time Does anybody else know of anyone who took the civil action thats tried to get a new season ticket ? My mate tried to buy his son a season ticket on the last day online (june30th if memory serves me right) and couldnt process it so had to go in the shop and get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, GermanBird said: - I don't like the way the club handled the refunds - I understand that some people would take the club to court for that - It's sad that the club reacts like this However - If it take legal action against anybody, I do not expect to ever do business with them. Usually as soon as you take somebody to court you accept that this will be the end of your relationship (business or personal). I am far to resentful to forgive anybody any legal action against me, but I would have hoped that the club or owner would be more professional or forgiving. This is what I tried explaining earlier with the trading analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Depends if I knew beforehand if it was going to be a slow drawn out process; like we did. What If the company just stopped all communications and didn’t refund you? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Fair enough imo. 27 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Private company, can deny business to who they see fit. 22 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Absolutely not. Say it was two businesses trading and one took the other to court over an unpaid expense, do you think they’d carry on trading after or cut ties? As a business, swfc can cut ties with who they see fit. 16 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Nothing anti-fellow fan about laughing at the suggestion they should get a free season ticket. People have cried about the financial state of the club for years now they’re wanting them to dish out free season tickets? 9 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: It isn’t about taking the refund, thousands took that option, and the same thousands have been allowed to purchase season tickets again, it’s just the one person who took the club to court who hasn’t been allowed. 5 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Who says I’m not annoyed at the club about how the handled it? I can just see it from their point of view- Wednesday didn’t have to offer a refund (a lot of other clubs didn’t), then when they did and explained the procedure would take time, they’re getting taken to court over something they outlined (the timeframe). I’d be annoyed too. 1 minute ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Depends if I knew beforehand if it was going to be a slow drawn out process; like we did. Just now, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Course they are. They don’t have to offer an explanation or reason. Hello, Dejphon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: What If the company just stopped all communications and didn’t refund you? Did that happen in this case? I remember seeing 2-3 different updates at the time from the club telling people they were still in the process of issuing rebates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Did that happen in this case? I remember seeing 2-3 different updates at the time from the club telling people they were still in the process of issuing rebates. Pretty sure the article states the guy emailed the club 7 times and every time he did he was ignored. Would it really have been THAT difficult for the club to put together a set email response to reply to such requests for information? It might have headed off an awful lot of this sillinesses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Did that happen in this case? YES!!!! Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Another point- why is nobody thinking to themselves that season tickets have been on sale months and The Star have decided to post this the day before a new season? Does that not seem convenient to anyone else? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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