edwinowl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Liam Dooley - if you're reading this - This is on YOUR watch so... Please please just stop these spats with the fans happening It's hurting our club, creating bad PR, and it's all totally unneccessary Just sell the guys season tickets and welcome them back so we can all crack on together as one. (as steve bracknall would say) Time to end the club vs fans thing once and for all Well said mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Owl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Not the way a well run football club operates. Just another dummy spitting moment to add the list Chansiri already has. Pathetic really. A leopard never changes it's spots and all that.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, the golden bullen said: Agreed. Why would you take your own club to court? Just pettiness Proper fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: You're (deliberately) missing the point and bigger picture Absolutely not. Say it was two businesses trading and one took the other to court over an unpaid expense, do you think they’d carry on trading after or cut ties? As a business, swfc can cut ties with who they see fit. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post @owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 Ps the sole fact that this thread will have fans divided (on the eve of a brand new season) over the petty act by the club is reason enough for the club NOT to have done this 9 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the golden bullen Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Have you misunderstood what's happened? People kick off when Chansiri call them customers, then they act like customers and kick off. Too right id do the same if it was a shop but this is meant to be our club which we are Supporters of. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Owl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Liam Dooley - if you're reading this - This is on YOUR watch so... Please please just stop these spats with the fans happening It's hurting our club, creating bad PR, and it's all totally unneccessary Just sell the guys season tickets and welcome them back so we can all crack on together as one. (as steve bracknall would say) Time to end the club vs fans thing once and for all Not only this, but they should give whoever it is their season ticket for free as an apology. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: Absolutely not. Say it was two businesses trading and one took the other to court over an unpaid expense, do you think they’d carry on trading after or cut ties? As a business, swfc can cut ties with who they see fit. They can mate Of course they can But look at the result of doing this when they could have just sold the bloke his new season ticket It's unneccessary So yet - it's technically possible to do it - but SHOULD they is the question And the answer is very clearly NO CHANCE 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, H2Owl said: Not only this, but they should give whoever it is their season ticket for free as an apology. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, the golden bullen said: People kick off when Chansiri call them customers, then they act like customers and kick off. Too right id do the same if it was a shop but this is meant to be our club which we are Supporters of. A club is supposed to be everyone in it together Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, OohhJohnnyJohnny said: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA The anti-fellow fan sentiment coming from you this morning is quite worrying Ps - it doesn't make you a bigger/better fan by siding with the club on this - just so you know 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 I didn’t get a refund, I took the Ifollow subscription and gave it my mum instead. That said, not all fans financially were in a position to do that and I can understand why many did want refunds. A legal route is not one I’d pursue had I asked for a refund but when the club is dragging out the refunding of fans and ignoring requests for updates, again I can see why fans have pursued this route. This for me now by the club is needless and petty, time now for them to just draw a line under the whole refunds issue and let the fans that want to get behind the team and support the club do so. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyonedavidhirst Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Not the sort of story we wanted on the eve of a new season. For me, just a bit more dialogue and openness from the club with regards to refunds and this whole situation could’ve been avoided I think. The article states the guy emailed the club around 7 times and was ignored. Surely had the club just replied to him (and others like him), explaining that refunding fans was a priority but due to the amounts involved and finances, they were struggling to do so but fans would be refunded as soon as possible, then I reckon most fans would’ve been ok with that. This situation was avoidable and has become a real PR gaff at a time when some fans were starting to give the chairman a bit if credit for the first time in a while. Think you've got the nail on the head. My brother-in-law waited for ages for his refund at a time when he was really struggling for money. He emailed and phoned the club several times and got nowhere. As a result he's not renewed and he may never come back now. He lives in Leeds and has other priorities with family and so he'll probably just pick his games for the rest of his life. At £500 a season roughly that could be close to £10,000 the club has lost over the next 20 years. That's one fan. I think Chansiri had his idea of "honour" and this will be why he's done it - he'll feel that the guy who took him to court has no honour because you wouldn't do that to something that you consider to be your family. What Chansiri can't see or won't see is what he does that we feel is just as bad. Personally, when he issued a survey with only 2 choices of pay top prices for decent players or pay average prices for zero signings was his biggest "lack of honour". He knew full well at the time we were overspending and likely to face a ban, plus there was no middle options and he was going it purely to justify his overspending and the fact he was charging top whack at the time. Just like this season ticket example, if he'd been more open fans would have understood. Nothing wrong with saying I've made some mistakes, I perhaps got caught up in the belief we would get promoted and I've overpaid on transfer fees and wages, which has inflated prices, but I'm learning and will not make the same mistakes again. I endeavour to reduce prices in the long term etc 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, the golden bullen said: Agreed. Why would you take your own club to court? Just pettiness Sounds like you would let the club walk all over you in any circumstances. Get a backbone. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the golden bullen Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: A club is supposed to be everyone in it together Agreed we were in the poo financially with no income and yet not everyone was in it together, some wanted there money back quicker than others. Cant pick and choose when you want to be in it together. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, the golden bullen said: Agreed. Why would you take your own club to court? Just pettiness It's not our 'Own' Club though. It's Chansiri's. If a family member owed me money while he was going on holiday and doing up his house I would want my money back family member or not. Edited July 29, 2022 by matthefish2002 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post asteener1867 Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 what on earth is the point of alienating fans, due to nothing bar spite? Self defeating nonsense. "Welcome back mate"..all that needed saying, a bridge mended. Anyone thought, maybe at the time the lad needed the money? irrespective of even that, he was entitled to his money back. Chansiri can certainly hold a grudge, he's lucky the majority of fans don't, cos his track record on the football side is abject crap 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohhJohnnyJohnny Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: The anti-fellow fan sentiment coming from you this morning is quite worrying Ps - it doesn't make you a bigger/better fan by siding with the club on this - just so you know Nothing anti-fellow fan about laughing at the suggestion they should get a free season ticket. People have cried about the financial state of the club for years now they’re wanting them to dish out free season tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, the golden bullen said: some wanted there money back quicker than others. This is simply not true They just wanted the refund that the club offered them Nothing more 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Sigh……..disappointing. Although I’m certain iin the next few hours it will be presented as a misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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