WorrallOwl17 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 All the people who said he wasn't backed last season and had to make do with freebies and loans, are you saying the same this season too? Christ the squad is the envy of the league again. If we're ever outside the playoffs this season then it's a failure. Top 2 is an absolute must with this team, i'd have my finger on the trigger from the very start if i was DC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, WorrallOwl17 said: All the people who said he wasn't backed last season and had to make do with freebies and loans, are you saying the same this season too? Christ the squad is the envy of the league again. If we're ever outside the playoffs this season then it's a failure. Top 2 is an absolute must with this team, i'd have my finger on the trigger from the very start if i was DC. This squad is shaping up to be significantly superior to last season. One geared for top 2........ and being assembled more in advance than was the case last year giving more time to bed new players in. Our relative weakness in the air both at the back (Dunkley aside) and up front have been addressed. I dont go along with the absolute imperative for a lightening start but if promotion isn't achieved then yes Moore would most likely be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 12 hours ago, fpowl said: When do we go to Portugal I always think the squad needs to be more or less assembled before then if for nothing else the bonding How many times have we jetted off without a signing or with about 10% of the new signings now 5 in the door all ready and none of their contracts have even run out I can’t wait to send pictures of the lads in training tomorrow to my good old vocal Rotherham associates and thank them for paying them still whilst they are training with us ( yeah I am that childish) Unfortunately I don't think we will have any loan signings by then. They always happen right at the end when the premier league clubs have finalised their squads for the year and know which young players they want to loan out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) Yes we have to be top 2 this season with this squad. If that is looking unlikely by Christmas Moore needs to go. Edited June 23, 2022 by WalthamOwl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Season hasn't even started yet and people are discussing, if and when the manager has to go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanamo Wednesday Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Most players are no different to everyone else. They want financial security and a decent work life balance, which means looking after their families. I don't know the facts but if both players from Rotherham have secured a pay rise, don't need to uproot their families or live away from them and the likelihood they can play in a successful team in front of big crowds then that's all part of the decision. They could maybe earn more elsewhere but may have to move, which isn't best for families. They could play in the league above, but in a team likely to be struggling, which they've done before and probably not enjoyed so much as a successful season in the league below. None of it means they won't be giving their all for their employer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNHARKES Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Credit where credit is due to DC he gets an awful lot of stick. Deserves praise as well. He has made errors but honestly cant fault him last few years. In all honesty all he has ever done is pump money into us to achieve the dream. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I'm falling in love with the club again, that is how important these early signings have been. The five sub rule makes it even more important to have a balanced and large enough squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, GermanBird said: Season hasn't even started yet and people are discussing, if and when the manager has to go It’ll be a weekly subject for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Yes we have to be top 2 this season with this squad. If that is looking unlikely by Christmas Moore needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jim said: It’ll be a weekly subject for some Which'll be a significant reduction on your hourly anti Monk rants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Luke said: I don't care about the attention Just calling it as it Is Anyone who thinks those lads from Rotherham,Gregory,Byers,paterson,windass and more are here because they've always wanted the play under Moore are delusional They are here because we offered the most money It's just the way it is I don’t think any posters have said, or implied, that players have “always wanted to play under Moore”. I suspect that none of the five signings we’ve made gave a moments thought to Wednesday and/or Moore until we made an approach. Then, at some stage in the process, Moore will have spoken to our potential signings. I guess that it is in these discussion where Moore will have made a positive impression that lures players to league 1 when more lucrative offers at Championship level are available. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys_12th_Pint Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Players certainly seem to love Moore. Hope he is rewarded with a title winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Shezza said: You have to realise that the only reason the two lads from Rotherham are signing is money. Then again never really hurt Man Utd, City, Chelsea et.all. But dropping down a division? I’m a bit sceptical, me. Smacks of final pay day. They are people. People with a talent. Money is one of a myriad of reasons they decide to do something. Maybe its one with the most influence, but money becomes less important based on circumstances. Are they a family man? Have their family accepted following them around the country to chase the money, or are they more likely to choose a stable family life over solely money? Some people in life even take on a role based on the potential of that role and can thus be sold it by a convincing or genuine person. So, Darren Moore could have had influence on their decision. Stability and family could have had influence. Money could have had influence - probably did. But, did they choose us rather than a championship club, say on the south coast because they spoke to Darren Moore and believed in what he was selling? Or not want to move their settled family from schools in Sheffield or Rotherham? Was this other none monetary influence a factor in them choosing to earn 14k pw at Sheffield Wednesday or 14k pw at say Reading - none of us know, but its not a ridiculous proposition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Tamworthowl said: I don’t think any posters have said, or implied, that players have “always wanted to play under Moore”. I suspect that none of the five signings we’ve made gave a moments thought to Wednesday and/or Moore until we made an approach. Then, at some stage in the process, Moore will have spoken to our potential signings. I guess that it is in these discussion where Moore will have made a positive impression that lures players to league 1 when more lucrative offers at Championship level are available. Ye and Ronaldo signed with Man U because he wanted to play under Ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Luke said: Ye and Ronaldo signed with Man U because he wanted to play under Ole Ronaldo is a great example. I don't believe that Ronaldo chose Man U just out of financial reasons. He once stated: “It was a dream because as a kid I always wanted to play in the Premier League" There are always serveral things, which influence the players decisions: - family / school for the children - language - promotion or relegation anticipation / league / reputation of the club - team colleagues / manager - etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 19 hours ago, flash said: 5 very good proven L1 players all signed before 1st July. This will stand us in great stead getting them in early and settled as opposed to previous windows where it’s been last minute. I expect they’ll be more on their way quite soon too i.e. Wilks. Well done to Darren Moore. He clearly can persuade the right players to join us. And well played Chansiri in continuing to back him in the transfer market so early in the window. Made some huge errors in the past but more recently his actions are building much more positivity around the club. Managed to also tie down Cadamateri so hopefully learning from past mistakes. It feels a good time to be an Owl! Just need to burn the blue nets, get the new kits out, give Beswetherick a bumper new contract and jobs a badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 8 hours ago, WorrallOwl17 said: All the people who said he wasn't backed last season and had to make do with freebies and loans, are you saying the same this season too? Christ the squad is the envy of the league again. If we're ever outside the playoffs this season then it's a failure. Top 2 is an absolute must with this team, i'd have my finger on the trigger from the very start if i was DC. If moore isn’t pushing that top spot going into winter chansiri will carry on his new trick and just go and save Warne from the relegation car crash season bud chairman has set him up for even Warne will know with this latest he’s took Rotherham as far as he can go he will want a crack with a team with budget soon he’s a good manager and bloke let down by his tight a55 chairman that said I think moore will have us right up there it certainly will stand us well if we are there or there abouts ( and I mean autos ) come the end of august Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, GermanBird said: Ronaldo is a great example. I don't believe that Ronaldo chose Man U just out of financial reasons. He once stated: “It was a dream because as a kid I always wanted to play in the Premier League" And that was 19 years ago What the hell does that have to do with Ronaldo signing with man u under ole Ronaldo resigned for man u purely down to money (and can do no wrong there) Just like the two rotherham lads have signed for us is down to money Anyone whose thinking there's other reasons are delusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Luke said: Ye and Ronaldo signed with Man U because he wanted to play under Ole Whats Ronaldo, Man U and Ole got to do with (some) players being impressed by a chat with Moore such that it sways their thinking if they’ve got multiple offers? Irrelevant comparison. Not everyone is solely driven by money. You might be, but many people, including a few footballers, take other factors into account. I don’t understand why you can’t see that it’s a possibility that Moore might have had an influence on bringing players to Wednesday when they have better (I.e. in a higher league) offers from elsewhere. Unless you’re blinded by money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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