OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, the mighty wednesday said: I presume you believe that everyone that has far left views pulls down statues. That is probably 99.99999% incorrect. It seems you also think I have far left views but I fail to see how you could think this from the statement I made. I think I implied that it was some consolation to me that the far left was not mainstream. I am not pleased that I think the far right is becoming more mainstream. It seems to me that you believe that if a person has misgivings about the far right then they must be far left. It seems similar to the derogatory use of SJW as if wanting social justice is an activity which means a person is far left and wants to destroy society. I think people generally need to think about nuance more instead of believing what their political heroes want them to. As it happens I am further to the left than the Mail but I don't think that statues should be pulled down. I think history should be taught properly and the statues put into their proper context. I think people seem to think far left is right and far right is wrong, which you'd be right on the latter point but wrong on the former. Let's be honest most people don't know their left from their right anyway. ..... Did that make sense ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Derby look in more trouble than us. Makes you wonder if he gets it if they go in admin as club don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, the mighty wednesday said: At least the far left is the far left. The far right is now mainstream ffs Yep the far left is what it is. Idiotic and unelectable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kevan said: .... and back to the topic....... I guess Derby County tried to make Keogh take responsibility for the fact that the two players who were driving were both well over the drink-drive limit and he as club captain should have influenced them NOT to drive. There seems to be some validity in that point of view to me, but clearly the EFL decision makers have decided that he could not be blamed for the misdeeds of his colleagues. and that sacking him was too drastic a punishment. I guess I can see both sides of the argument,..... but what I don't understand is why professional footballers who earn tens of thousands of pounds per week, (more in a fortnight than most of us earn in a year), don't have the common sense to take a taxi home after a night on the booze. Frankly they could afford a Chauffeur Driven Limousine if a taxi is deemed as too down market for them. All three of them risked their own lives and possibly those of others too, by driving or being in the vehicles. Just yet another example of how professional footballers are so far out of touch with the real world. I agree. They were all too trashed to know better. Not that that is any excuse. I suppose it also depends on the club disciplinary terms that the players agree to in their contract. Whilst stupidity played a significant role here, I can't help think Derby overstepped the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Mail and its owner supported Hitler, very far right. I forgot about that but there is the misconception that you always lose the argument when Hitler is mentioned. If you are likening Hitler to Hitler I think you are OK I once heard somebody say that the Nazis were left wing as they were called National Socialists. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Pughies Jockstrap said: Yep the far left is what it is. Idiotic and unelectable. Just as the far right should be but we are where we are unfortunately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Mail and its owner supported Hitler, very far right. What the paper that campaigned relentlessly for 5 years to get the Stephen Lawrence murderers convicted far right - dream on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 To all can we keep politics out of this please. we have a whole section devoted to politics. You’ll find it under the heading “Politics” Just scroll the main page down and there it is. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlinOldham Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Clowns to the far left of me, jokers to the far right, and here i am, stuck in the middle with you....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: Sweet and sour please. What ???? This now gets worse than left and right !!! It's a WTF..sweet and sour popcorn ? moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, quinnssweetshop said: What ???? This now gets worse than left and right !!! It's a WTF..sweet and sour popcorn ? moment Maybe I meant salty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: I think people seem to think far left is right and far right is wrong, which you'd be right on the latter point but wrong on the former. Let's be honest most people don't know their left from their right anyway. ..... Did that make sense ? Are you trying to rationalise why our managers play Reach on the right and Harris on the left ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, the mighty wednesday said: Are you trying to rationalise why our managers play Reach on the right and Harris on the left ? Exquisite sir. I almost pissed myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andysowls Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, shandypants said: That’s dreadful. You read the Daily Mail. I buy it for their Codeword puzzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Meanwhile back in derby. Had they sacked all three they would have a case. As it was sacking the one that wasn’t driving ( who had no resale value) but not sacking the two that were ( who did) May have been viewed as a teeny bit hypocritical 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, the mighty wednesday said: I forgot about that but there is the misconception that you always lose the argument when Hitler is mentioned. If you are likening Hitler to Hitler I think you are OK I once heard somebody say that the Nazis were left wing as they were called National Socialists. There weren't many left wingers in Germany at the time. This exposed their flanks to Ramsey's "Wingerless Wonders" and eventually cost them the '66 World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, bronxowl said: Don’t talk phuking daft, the left are just scroungers that will riot if a rabbit gets run over. A Krypton factor of..........................minus....no one 'left' voted for cuts to disability benefits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Hornsby said: Mail and its owner supported Hitler, very far right. To be fair, Viscount Rothermere also owned the Daily Mirror (which printed more than one of the exact same pro-Nazi editorials). The Guardian also supported the Confederate States of America, while we are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 He was always going to win that case, he wasn't driving and treated differently to the others by his employer. Being club captain is irrelevant he has no responsibility over the others on non work duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, the mighty wednesday said: I forgot about that but there is the misconception that you always lose the argument when Hitler is mentioned. If you are likening Hitler to Hitler I think you are OK I once heard somebody say that the Nazis were left wing as they were called National Socialists. Was mentioned 848 times at Yalta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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