Guest Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Maddogbob said: Truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, like most things for me. I suspected the family had more influence than we realised, so that's confirmed for me. To answer why he would stick around, easy. Money. Why do any of us stick in a job we don't really like. That doesn't make him a great guy and well respected though does it? To stick around in a position he feels is wasting his time because he is getting paid for it. Surely a well respected individual would get good money elsewhere AND job satisfaction. I am not saying he is the main problem, that clearly comes from the top as Chansiri has the power to remove him, but I don't think he is doing all he can for SWFC, swimming against the tide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, quinnssweetshop said: No...not at all.... He is the demon.... one hacks article doesn't change the fact we came BOTTOM Nor does it change the fact that Chansiri could (and does) ignore the advisors suggestions 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: so I thought you must know more than the writer of the article? He's not the messiah...he's a very naughty boy ! He was the only advisor.... we came BOTTOM. what else can he be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) Just now, @owlstalk said: Nor does it change the fact that Chansiri could (and does) ignore the advisors suggestions See pic above - both as bad Edited May 8, 2021 by quinnssweetshop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, quinnssweetshop said: He's not the messiah...he's a very naughty boy ! He was the only advisor.... we came BOTTOM. what else can he be ? He wasn’t the only advisor Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: He wasn’t the only advisor Well we can't mention ten year old kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 A scary article that I suspect paints a very clear picture of the way things really are? He either needs to change the way he operates or sell the club? It’s that simple for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Makes little odds whether paxo is a cuddly wuddly teddy bear..... one of his repsonses to a child fan of a member on here would suggest otherwise. He's crap and helped get us relegated. If he was any good, Doyen would have kept him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: That doesn't make him a great guy and well respected though does it? To stick around in a position he feels is wasting his time because he is getting paid for it. Surely a well respected individual would get good money elsewhere AND job satisfaction. I am not saying he is the main problem, that clearly comes from the top as Chansiri has the power to remove him, but I don't think he is doing all he can for SWFC, swimming against the tide. I'll agree in part mate, but life's not ideal. You're lucky in life if you've got good money and a job you enjoy. Perhaps working under those conditions has limited his enthusiasm. Then youve got to ask why DC is persistent in his employment, because that's his fault for creating that work environment and continuing it, if it's not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Owl Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Several sources noted to The Athletic that Wednesday have a damaged reputation within the industry for the way they have handled player contracts, with one leading agent going as far as to say that the perception is the club signs “broken” players who go to Hillsborough in the hope of reviving their careers rather than it being a move driven by a desire to join. This is the worst bit. People in football talk and when it becomes 'known' what a shambles we are it makes everything difficult, especially recruitment. We either end up paying more than the going rate to land a player with wages or they choose another option if we are comparable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Maddogbob said: I'll agree in part mate, but life's not ideal. You're lucky in life if you've got good money and a job you enjoy. Perhaps working under those conditions has limited his enthusiasm. Then youve got to ask why DC is persistent in his employment, because that's his fault for creating that work environment and continuing it, if it's not working. Seems a big push to stand up for this bloke who has helped wreck the club ? Any reason ? And why has any criticism of him on here been crushed so quickly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 How are people seeing the full article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: I'll agree in part mate, but life's not ideal. You're lucky in life if you've got good money and a job you enjoy. Perhaps working under those conditions has limited his enthusiasm. Then youve got to ask why DC is persistent in his employment, because that's his fault for creating that work environment and continuing it, if it's not working. Absolutely, I agree completely where the main blame rests. But if Paixao is that good, you really think he hasn't had any better offers to work for anyone else? Maybe he just isn't that good at his job, but is a decent guy who is well liked by staff within the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, quinnssweetshop said: Seems a big push to stand up for this bloke who has helped wreck the club ? Any reason ? And why has any criticism of him on here been crushed so quickly ? Why the paranoia? Seriously log off, have a chilled evening. Come back an have a reasoned discussion at a later date. That statement reads as a bit rabbit hole. It's actually quite concerning. I'm not going to debate things further with you for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, markg said: How are people seeing the full article? Someone posted the entire thing but then Neil nuked it and replaced it with a his own drip feed version so he can claim all the plus points for himself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Absolutely, I agree completely where the main blame rests. But if Paixao is that good, you really think he hasn't had any better offers to work for anyone else? Maybe he just isn't that good at his job, but is a decent guy who is well liked by staff within the club. Yep, could be the case. Involved yes, but far far far from the 50/50 mega evil split that some think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Theboylangers said: When everyone is shouting sack Moore (or any other manager), the players aren't good enough. PLEASE READ THIS FIRST. MAJOR DECISIONS AFFECTING OUR CLUB ARE INFLUENCED BY A TEENAGER. Guardiola could be manager and it wouldn’t make a difference Pretty much any manager that comes in here will struggle big time unless there is stability, structure and clear direction from the top. Bruce was the exception - the only one strong enough to cut through the chaos. Really fear for us next season - it’s going to be very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, quinnssweetshop said: Seems a big push to stand up for this bloke who has helped wreck the club ? Any reason ? And why has any criticism of him on here been crushed so quickly ? You're joking right The blokes been absolutely SLAUGHTERED on here for 5 years Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 My son is a sports agent, or parasite, and he agrees that Paixao is well regarded in the business. For whatever reason it isn't working here though is it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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