daleblue Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Don't want to worry people, but the water in my garden water butts as frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, punkskaphil said: I am sure matches have been played on days much colder than this. However, I'm not down on the pitch at Hillsborough right now so I can't assess whether the pitch is playable or not. I'm sure that's the important factor, not the current air temperature. who knows if the undersoil heating has even been used for 2-3 years , if the pitch was covered it would have stopped most of the problems with freezing and kept the snow off , but during the 2nd half it snowed quite heavily in freezing conditions on an already poor pitch , you cant suddenly chuck back on the covers then . i walk the dog and ive not seen the ground as rock hard as this for many years . does anyone actually knows when the undersoil heating was last used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: You realise we’re playing Stoke on Tuesday? Am sure stoke would have been happy to move to wednesday. Why wouldn't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just out of interest (I haven't trawled through the entire thread so please forgive me if I've missed it), have the club officially offered an explanation as to why the undersoil heating hasn't done its job? Presumably they'll have to explain to the EFL. I think I remember that a few years ago some Premier League matches were postponed at grounds where undersoil heating was in place and there was some kind of investigation by the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, daleblue said: Don't want to worry people, but the water in my garden water butts as frozen. Bet in won't be this time tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Wednesday fans trying to convince other Wednesday fans that we can't play winter sports in winter because it's a bit cold in February 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Bet in won't be this time tomorrow ice takes a lot longer to defrost than snow ,even if game was on monday plus 10c it would be touch and go if it went ahead ,the ground temperature is much lower than the air temperature . it takes 2 days to defrost a turkey but if you scrapped out the fluffy ice out of your freezer that would soon melt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Am sure stoke would have been happy to move to wednesday. Why wouldn't they? They’ll have a game the following Saturday and it may mean changing the officials and the staff that are booked to work that night. I’m sure they could have sorted but maybe they didn’t want to move a game just because we can’t sort our pitch out for today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, morganowl said: ice takes a lot longer to defrost than snow ,even if game was on monday plus 10c it would be touch and go if it went ahead ,the ground temperature is much lower than the air temperature . it takes 2 days to defrost a turkey but if you scrapped out the fluffy ice out of your freezer that would soon melt. Sounds like we need undersoil heating turning on - that heats up to 40 degrees Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Genuine question: if a club has undersoil heating, are they actually required to have it turned on? I mean is there an actual rule that means having an existing (and presumably operational) system in place it must be used, or is it down to the club's discretion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, punkskaphil said: Genuine question: if a club has undersoil heating, are they actually required to have it turned on? I mean is there an actual rule that means having an existing (and presumably operational) system in place it must be used, or is it down to the club's discretion? I think it's down to the club's discretion and if they want to or not There's no law to even have undersoiil heating in the game I don't think from what I read yesterday Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Seriously though Dont you think that we've played matches on days even colder than this just fine? In weeks of even colder weather? I know we have for sure - I once sat on the West Upper during a match in minus 12 temperatures a few seasons ago We nearly always play in temperatures/weeks lower than this Today is normal February day This week has been a normal February week Why is everyone suddenly trying to convince each other we can't play at minus 1 degrees? It's utterly baffling Totally bizarre I'm literally two minutes from Hillsborough It's fine here! The excuses people are going to is absolutely mental. But then if you question why the club can’t get the game on you get shot down with people accusing you of being negative etc etc. And then they’ll try to convince you that Sheffield is absolutely freezing and Nottingham which is about an hour away have had sunshine and rainbows. How come us and Rotherham are the only teams in the league who can’t get the game on today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, punkskaphil said: Genuine question: if a club has undersoil heating, are they actually required to have it turned on? I mean is there an actual rule that means having an existing (and presumably operational) system in place it must be used, or is it down to the club's discretion? I was thinking that. Clubs could use it to their advantage if they want a game called off. Would the league look at why a club with undersoil heating is postponing a game for a frozen pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, punkskaphil said: Genuine question: if a club has undersoil heating, are they actually required to have it turned on? I mean is there an actual rule that means having an existing (and presumably operational) system in place it must be used, or is it down to the club's discretion? Just googled that While it is not an official requirement, it avoids any financial loss that a club might face in having to postpone any matches due to bad weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 26 page thread about a frozen pitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I’m guessing the pitch is still frozen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, sonofbert2 said: I’m guessing the pitch is still frozen..... We've played in temperatures way lower than that just fine in every other season we've had 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: The excuses people are going to is absolutely mental. But then if you question why the club can’t get the game on you get shot down with people accusing you of being negative etc etc. And then they’ll try to convince you that Sheffield is absolutely freezing and Nottingham which is about an hour away have had sunshine and rainbows. How come us and Rotherham are the only teams in the league who can’t get the game on today. A lot closer than Forest’s ground like.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We've played in temperatures way lower than that just fine in every other season we've had When?? Can’t remember the last time I went to a game sub zero.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, sonofbert2 said: A lot closer than Forest’s ground like.... Your point literally makes no sense Clubs all over the country are currently playing just fine We have always played just fine in temperatures of -1 to -20 We've never had this issue before Rotherham don't have undersoil heating Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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