JoshTheOwl Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, horny owl said: Absolutely spot on about our recent managers starting with attacking football then reverting to negative, defensive rubbish. Jones was another example of it Im hoping Pulis doesn’t carry this recipe for disaster forward and has learned from their mistakes Especially the mistakes of ‘calamity carlos’ soon as I saw the title of this thread that was my exact thought. Think pulis will release the shackles initially but will soon revert back as you say to what he knows best, rightly or wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 The bizarre Argument is coming out again that you can’t have , at Wednesday, both winning and good football. It’s either bad football and winning , or good football and losing. this despite the last 6 teams to be promoted from this league all playing good, winning, attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls_fan_since_1983 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 He will follow on from Monk tactics. and also listen to what DC wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adifferentgame Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, mcmigo said: The bizarre Argument is coming out again that you can’t have , at Wednesday, both winning and good football. It’s either bad football and winning , or good football and losing. this despite the last 6 teams to be promoted from this league all playing good, winning, attacking football. And the argument doesn't address any genuine problems, at best attacks a strawman, and comes with a whole bunch of cult-like qualifiers such as "not a real" or "fair-weather" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, beloved_aunt said: He says he’ll asses the squad and play to our strengths. In my mind one of our strengths is a potentially quality midfield three of Brown/Luongo/Bannan. So I hope he sticks to his word, recognises that and plays quickly through midfield - not smashing it over their heads. That's been the problem for the last 5 seasons, a midfield that is light weight and slow to build the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Different world some fans mate. We need to start winning ugly again, finding a winning mentality and being difficult to beat. Once we’ve got that foundation back which we had under Stuart Gray, we can start thinking about adding quality and playing pretty football. 100% this But the absolute truth/fact is that once we start winning games, if we're winning them with defensive dire football then the fans will call for more expansive entertainment It's always been the case (And it doesn't make those calling for it 'blades' either no matter how much the cool kids will try to claim it does) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: 100% this But the absolute truth/fact is that once we start winning games, if we're winning them with defensive dire football then the fans will call for more expansive entertainment It's always been the case (And it doesn't make those calling for it 'blades' either no matter how much the cool kids will try to claim it does) They will and I think this is what DC wants too. He’ll want us to play nice football. But at the moment the club is broken and I genuinely think Pulis is the man to change the culture here and make us a difficult side to play against. I think this will prove to be the best appointment the club has made in years and years. It really does feel like right man at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 There are different ways to play attacking football. If we play anysort of attacking football , I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Dont't play football in our half, get the ball into the opposition half as early as possible and then play football. It both terrifies and makes me angry when I see 'Defender's' playing the ball ACROSS their penalty area. WTF is all that about?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: They will and I think this is what DC wants too. He’ll want us to play nice football. But at the moment the club is broken and I genuinely think Pulis is the man to change the culture here and make us a difficult side to play against. I think this will prove to be the best appointment the club has made in years and years. It really does feel like right man at the right time. Let's hope so Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, adelphi1867 said: Dont't play football in our half, get the ball into the opposition half as early as possible and then play football. It both terrifies and makes me angry when I see 'Defender's' playing the ball ACROSS their penalty area. WTF is all that about?. Probably started with managers getting coaching badges Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, beloved_aunt said: He says he’ll asses the squad and play to our strengths. In my mind one of our strengths is a potentially quality midfield three of Brown/Luongo/Bannan. So I hope he sticks to his word, recognises that and plays quickly through midfield - not smashing it over their heads. Have these three in midfield and an advance forward three with pace directness and mobility Harris. Kachunga. Windass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, beloved_aunt said: He says he’ll asses the squad and play to our strengths. In my mind one of our strengths is a potentially quality midfield three of Brown/Luongo/Bannan. So I hope he sticks to his word, recognises that and plays quickly through midfield - not smashing it over their heads. Absolutely this, though I’m not optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Has he ever played attacking football, I have not seen any evidence of it during his managerial career!! We will no doubt be very organised defensively, however with our very shortage of fire power up front be interesting to see how he is going to get us scoring, given very limited options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I just want us to be hard to beat, feel like we can compete against any team. For too long we've worried that the supposed bottom teams being too gritty and determined for us to beat, or the top teams having too much class for us. Carlos season one and Bruce short stint, we've otherwise seemed too easy to roll over. Carlos season two felt dour and always on edge like we'd scraped the wins. Hard to beat will mean hard working players, leaving it all out on the pitch, that to me is what i want to see, because then you only need 3-4 players with class to drive you up the table. We first need to be solid, safely stay in this league, then add quality, which will be good to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Again - that all sounds noble and great on paper but in reality after watching game after game of dire football even if we win people won't be happy That's been proven in times gone by There's never been a time when dire football has been celebrated or even accepted by Wednesday fans - it just never happens - what happens is that initially of course it's great we're winning but after a while it gets unacceptable to many to play that way There’s never been a time when dire football has brought win after win, so celebrating has never been an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I heard TP talk about playing to our strengths etc. So I've been thinking about it. What are our strengths? I'm stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fuzzy logics said: I heard TP talk about playing to our strengths etc. So I've been thinking about it. What are our strengths? I'm stuck. That was my thought too Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, bobowl said: I'm pretty sure it's gonna be the same as we were getting under monk, i doubt he can change much in a week. Agree but expect to be more organised, limited with options due to injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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