scram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I can't see how anybody ever thought VAR would be a good thing I mean we had so much access to replays and footage for post-match analysis and multiple times the pundits couldn't agree - so how was it ever gonna be worked out in almost real time? I realise i'm losing touch with the game and the way it is going is increasingly not for me That's fine because i'm not the target audience for the new age I mean i'm just a person who adored football all my life, spent every waking minute thinking/playing/talking/analysing etc The authorities wanna it to be a WWE style event - the human elemnent is steadily being flushed out I mean - who would have ever thought that you have to now wait to even celebrate a goal while some people in a room multiple miles away looks to see if they can chalk it off... Also i loved the fact that the pitch that i played on in my days at amateur level could have hosted the pinnacle of the game - the world cup final Now we even have cup ties that have different conditions for first ties and replays It's sickening to me tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, scram said: I can't see how anybody ever thought VAR would be a good thing I mean we had so much access to replays and footage for post-match analysis and multiple times the pundits couldn't agree - so how was it ever gonna be worked out in almost real time? I realise i'm losing touch with the game and the way it is going is increasingly not for me That's fine because i'm not the target audience for the new age I mean i'm just a person who adored football all my life, spent every waking minute thinking/playing/talking/analysing etc The authorities wanna it to be a WWE style event - the human elemnent is steadily being flushed out I mean - who would have ever thought that you have to now wait to even celebrate a goal while some people in a room multiple miles away looks to see if they can chalk it off... Also i loved the fact that the pitch that i played on in my days at amateur level could have hosted the pinnacle of the game - the world cup final Now we even have cup ties that have different conditions for first ties and replays It's sickening to me tbh It hasn’t made rugby union a worse game... but I thought straight away when they called it VAR rather than TMO like the rugby codes do that football was going to do it their way and not for the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Rugby is a much easier game to analyse than football though Much more natural stoppages and always a lull after scoring a try before the conversion etc Goal line tech has definitely improved the game - but the rest needs binning and go back to the imperfection it was before rather than this sh*tshow 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 The handball against Wilson for Newcastle, the 2 penalties in the Villa-WBA game, the offside prior to the penalty given to Arsenal..........................all this weekend, all ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 9 hours ago, scram said: I can't see how anybody ever thought VAR would be a good thing I mean we had so much access to replays and footage for post-match analysis and multiple times the pundits couldn't agree - so how was it ever gonna be worked out in almost real time? I realise i'm losing touch with the game and the way it is going is increasingly not for me That's fine because i'm not the target audience for the new age I mean i'm just a person who adored football all my life, spent every waking minute thinking/playing/talking/analysing etc The authorities wanna it to be a WWE style event - the human elemnent is steadily being flushed out I mean - who would have ever thought that you have to now wait to even celebrate a goal while some people in a room multiple miles away looks to see if they can chalk it off... Also i loved the fact that the pitch that i played on in my days at amateur level could have hosted the pinnacle of the game - the world cup final Now we even have cup ties that have different conditions for first ties and replays It's sickening to me tbh I'm sick of decisions going against us. I pay a lot of money each season for season tickets to watch an inept referee or assistant screw us over repeatedly. I wanted the correct decisions to be made rather than 'enjoying' the controversy and having to listen to people tell me it all evens out over a season when I don't think it does. That's why I wanted var. I've seen it work in cricket, rugby and all the major American sports. I wanted a version of it in football so I didn't have to pay to watch another Neil swarbrick type show again. I believe there is a happy medium between having none at all and the current mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 12 hours ago, scram said: Rugby is a much easier game to analyse than football though Much more natural stoppages and always a lull after scoring a try before the conversion etc Goal line tech has definitely improved the game - but the rest needs binning and go back to the imperfection it was before rather than this sh*tshow Said it before that a review system is the sensible way forward here. Each team gets 1 review per game (or per half) for decisions other than whether the ball has crossed the goal line and if you’ve used up your review trying to get a perfectly fine goal chalked off and the ref makes an absolute howler in the 98th minute, tough shít. The cat’s out of the bag now with VAR so may as well find a way to make it interesting which doesn’t completely ruin the game as a spectacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 The only way VAR can work effectively imo is if the ENTIRE game is reviewed in real time and any mistakes by the on field ref - even seemingly innocuous fouls on the half way line - are corrected Goals don't happen in a vacuum - many many incidents generally happen before a goal is scored and if anywhere in that chain an infringement occured then it's only right that the goal is chalked off I'd prefer to do away with it entirely and keep only goal line tech It's not a surprise it is a clusterfuck Most of the issues we are seeing were predicted before its implementation 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Agreed mate, I’d rather just do away with it altogether too. Aside from the nonsense decisions, I don’t like how it’s created a two-tier structure where the top sides have VAR and lower leagues don’t. It’s not a level playing field, especially when it comes to cup games where it may be used depending on who’s the home side. I do feel though that it’s unlikely the authorities will sack it off - unfortunately - so I think limiting its use and maybe creating a bit of drama via a review system (like in cricket) is the only sensible option IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, scram said: The only way VAR can work effectively imo is if the ENTIRE game is reviewed in real time and any mistakes by the on field ref - even seemingly innocuous fouls on the half way line - are corrected Goals don't happen in a vacuum - many many incidents generally happen before a goal is scored and if anywhere in that chain an infringement occured then it's only right that the goal is chalked off I'd prefer to do away with it entirely and keep only goal line tech It's not a surprise it is a clusterfuck Most of the issues we are seeing were predicted before its implementation Completely agree. Keep goal line tech and bin VAR I honestly don’t care about the right decision anymore, a few millimetres here and there, F off Would love to go back to real time. Decisions will go for and against us, but the authenticity will be back Edited April 26, 2021 by FreshOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Can the linesman please flag for offside when it happens, not 5 minutes later after another 17 passes? Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, The only way is S6 said: Can the linesman please flag for offside when it happens, not 5 minutes later after another 17 passes? Ta. I don't agree with that. It's linesperson. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, The only way is S6 said: Can the linesman please flag for offside when it happens, not 5 minutes later after another 17 passes? Ta. It's ridiculous how long they delay. There will come a point where they delay, a player will be seriously injured during the attack then the flag will go up. Whereas if it had gone up earlier the attack would have stopped and the player wouldn't have been injured. I see why they delay with var in play but not in our league, makes no sense whatsoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 19 hours ago, scram said: Rugby is a much easier game to analyse than football though Much more natural stoppages and always a lull after scoring a try before the conversion etc Goal line tech has definitely improved the game - but the rest needs binning and go back to the imperfection it was before rather than this sh*tshow If you could hear the ref justify their actions it would go a long way to helping 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Sean Dyche to Palace rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Big Sham.... At least the fraud will have earned a few million from his catastrophic failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Bye Fulham. Dyche keeps Burnley up for another season. Not always pretty, but he does some job there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EighteenSixty7 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Is it the worst set of relegated sides the Prem has seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, EighteenSixty7 said: Is it the worst set of relegated sides the Prem has seen? Apparently, this is the first time that all three teams have been relegated with three games still to go...so yeah, pretty crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, SiJ said: Bye Fulham. Dyche keeps Burnley up for another season. Not always pretty, but he does some job there. TBF Dyche does an immense job with the hand he's been dealt He's not only kept Burnley in the PL but they have also inested in fantastic training facilites and upgraded their academy from cat 3 to cat 1 He has literally grown that club to the best position they could ever be really 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Congratulations Manchester City. Premier League Champions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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