BeverleyOwl74 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko1992 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 ooerp so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Doesn't matter. DC will feck it up anyway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 We should argue that Birmingham received a 9 point deduction so hopefully we can. Still poo but one less win would be required. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I’d rather we took responsibility for our incompetency and move forward. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 If we do appeal and lose can they dock us more than -12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I thought we had 2 weeks to appeal? The statement saying the club want to read and digest and response from the panel will probably take that long anyway. Just accept it and move on. Sounded dodgy and immoral from the first time I read about it. If it were any other club you’d expect punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxine Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Surely we are appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, 0wl18 said: I’d rather we took responsibility for our incompetency and move forward. I was caned (Rightly) by the Headmaster at school. He said take the punishment and learn from it. He was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Yep appeal. We’ve been done on the 3 year P&S rule nothing else. Precedent was set with Birmingham 9 points NOT 12. Cant have inconsistencies in this or it will be totally unworkable going forward. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 We can appeal but, reading the EFL statement about the deduction relating to the dates not being correct, it seems a completely pointless exercise. Without the ground sale we overshot FFP massively and -12 is the correct punishment. They’d have to effectively break the rule to decrease, or even increase, the points deduction. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Chansiri foooked up and tried to pull as fast one with the ground sale . If he has any decency he will accept his punishment and not appeal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 The result is far better than I hoped for. The letter from the EFL obviously wasn't as concrete as SWFC suggested. We've been banged to rights: - Hillsborough isn't worth £60m. - D Taxis and various other shell company scams never existed. - Back dating your accounts because you've broken the rules, and still not gained success is just plain stupid. What can we hope for if we appeal? An increase to 21 points this season? Time to move on, hopefully... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, shez owl said: Yep appeal. We’ve been done on the 3 year P&S rule nothing else. Precedent was set with Birmingham 9 points NOT 12. Cant have inconsistencies in this or it will be totally unworkable going forward. We have been found guilty of selling the stadium and backdating it to the previous years accounts to try and avoid breaching FFP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, shez owl said: Yep appeal. We’ve been done on the 3 year P&S rule nothing else. Precedent was set with Birmingham 9 points NOT 12. Cant have inconsistencies in this or it will be totally unworkable going forward. Incorrect. We've not been done on that hence why the punishment is bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, TheEnchanter said: Incorrect. We've not been done on that hence why the punishment is bigger. Also Birmingham got some knocked off for holding their hands up from the start. We clearly haven’t done that. We’re lucky when you consider they’ve not found us guilty of trying to mislead the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 This is not over with Chansiri in charge, he is the black knight from Monty Python don't forget. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: We have been found guilty of selling the stadium and backdating it to the previous years accounts to try and avoid breaching FFP. Not according to the EFL site. We have had the ground sale backdating disallowed but have been found not guilty of trying to hide this or do it with any malice. Therefore the sanction is simply for exceeding the P & S limits for the 3 year rolling period. Now exceeded due to the sale being removed into the following years accounts. So, in effect, same as Birmingham. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Incorrect. We've not been done on that hence why the punishment is bigger. No, the statement says we’ve breached profit and sustainability for 2017/18. That’s what we’ve been done for. They've disallowed the sale of the ground in those accounts. So we’ve not been done for concealing the sale or that the sale was illegal, they’ve simply said that sale should not have been included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Triple O said: Not according to the EFL site. We have had the ground sale backdating disallowed but have been found not guilty of trying to hide this or do it with any malice. Therefore the sanction is simply for exceeding the P & S limits for the 3 year rolling period. Now exceeded due to the sale being removed into the following years accounts. So, in effect, same as Birmingham. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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