daveyboy66 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 7 hours ago, fingyfop said: Some of the top teams do actually end up in a 2-3-5 in attack, fullbacks push up that far for Liverpool, and for City 2 of the midfielders push up that far often and fullbacks go in to midfield This is what makes me laugh about people advocating having big hard men in midfield...City's midfield are all great footballers not someone who spends time kicking lumps out of players...Bernado Silva, Foden, David Silva all up there in winning the ball back stats. Bannan closes down and gets the ball back. lets have some real footballers in the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smackavolley Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Bloke lost me at center. Not having that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Are you an apprentice candidate? We need solutions not problems! But fair play he’s ‘gone and put his hand up’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 It’s simple Keeper Right back. Left back Right half. Centre half. Left half right wing. Inside right. Centre forward. Inside left. Left wing Another name for it is reinventing the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: This is what makes me laugh about people advocating having big hard men in midfield...City's midfield are all great footballers not someone who spends time kicking lumps out of players...Bernado Silva, Foden, David Silva all up there in winning the ball back stats. Bannan closes down and gets the ball back. lets have some real footballers in the team. They get turned over without Fernandinho though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, unkastav said: They get turned over without Fernandinho though Kante is the same kind of player...not saying you can't have a ball winner in midfield. He just doesn't have to be a six foot monster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I wonder how, all those thousands of years ago, they would have got on had they tried to build the Pyramids at Giza, near Cairo, the other way up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, Kew Owl said: I wonder how, all those thousands of years ago, they would have got on had they tried to build the Pyramids at Giza, near Cairo, the other way up ? They’d flood on top surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 It’s a very good book, the title of which basically refers to how formations have generally changed from the attach heavy ones to more defensive, with one front man. If the OP is suggesting we then revert to fewer defenders and loads of attackers, then I can see numerous drawbacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: This is what makes me laugh about people advocating having big hard men in midfield...City's midfield are all great footballers not someone who spends time kicking lumps out of players...Bernado Silva, Foden, David Silva all up there in winning the ball back stats. Bannan closes down and gets the ball back. lets have some real footballers in the team. They don’t look the same without Fernandinho though. He loves a yellow card does that fella. I don’t think you need a hard man in midfield but you want someone disciplined to sit and do all the donkey work in order for players like Silva, De Bruyne and Foden to flourish. Best player I’ve seen do that at Championship level in recent seasons is Adam Clayton at Boro. He screens his midfield, covers if a full back bombs forward and does all the dirty stuff. Often goes unnoticed from the outside looking in. I don’t think we have anyone disciplined enough for that role. Too often there are gaping holes in our CM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, unkastav said: They’d flood on top surely? I know a good flat felt roofer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 9 hours ago, heppers said: The rear of the pyramid. That is the point or not the point depending on how you view it. Well that's solved that then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gparrish Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The book by Jonathan Wilson is a dull old read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 9 hours ago, heppers said: I read cutting edge football theory. Oh dear. You mean you ordered a12 year old book from Amazon during lockdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Rogers said: Unfortunately we don’t have the players Liverpool and City have; easy to have players pushing up if you have the majority of possession and applying the forward pressure. We ship goals in for fun, so 2 at the back would be a joke. I wasn't suggesting it for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 10 hours ago, heppers said: I have been saying this since Carlos’ final season. We need to invert the pyramid. All the top sides do it yet we persist with old fashioned methods and get caught out. It’s never been more obvious than the 2nd half of this season yet Monk is oblivious. That speaks volumes. What you sphinxing about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramide_inversée Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Rogerwyldesmullet said: As above - could this guy do a job for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, The Wall said: Oh dear. You mean you ordered a12 year old book from Amazon during lockdown? To be fair I didn't know that book existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, heppers said: To be fair I didn't know that book existed. I thought you were on the cutting edge of football theory? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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