Guest mrbluesky Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, billyblack said: Motivation can come from a number of places. Competition for places is one that can provide that, hand on heart do we have that? Exactamundo! and so can demotivation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, billyblack said: it must be easy to only focus on one thing and not look at the bigger picture Billy I’m merely pointing out that sometimes the reason a club is struggling is because of poor managerial appointments ( ie the blades for around ten years and Leeds for God knows how long), and that a good manager will overcome other issues at the club, as both wilder and bielsa have. Put a poor manager into a poor situation and disaster will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nut said: The stream I watched last night had commentary from Radio Leeds and they said the verdict would be announced by the end of this week. Obviously I've no idea where they got that from. Trouble is coming on this thread, someone convinces me that we are going to get the book thrown at us the next time I read it, someone convinces me we are going to be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I wonder if Chansiri's time has been taken up all by the EFL charge. Hopefully we win the case and then there can be a re-newed focus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Plonk said: Billy I’m merely pointing out that sometimes the reason a club is struggling is because of poor managerial appointments ( ie the blades for around ten years and Leeds for God knows how long), and that a good manager will overcome other issues at the club, as both wilder and bielsa have. Put a poor manager into a poor situation and disaster will follow. I like the bits in bold, did you know Chansiri and Carlos are bezzy mates? I mean "bezzy mates" still in regular contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Mills Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, billyblack said: Well i have to say, im unsure how any fan can believe selling the ground was good for the club Very puzzled with all this ground selling, what did Chansiri buy when he bought Wednesday, did he not buy the ground with the club because his name is all over the f----in place. So what difference dose it make if on paper he sells it back to himself, he can't sell the club without a ground or ground without a club so why is everyone getting so fizzed up about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafterowl Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Trouble is coming on this thread, someone convinces me that we are going to get the book thrown at us the next time I read it, someone convinces me we are going to be fine. The problem with this site at the moment is that posters are stating opinions or rumours, often based upon nothing much. That is fine, but then others are using these opinions/rumours as fact. As far as I can tell nobody know owt, but you would never guess that reading some of the posts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, OwlsItGoing said: This thread has turned into total anarchy and a fan base split again It hasn't It's just a thread with differing views Nobody has fallen out or got all angrymad (yet) 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Derick Mills said: Very puzzled with all this ground selling, what did Chansiri buy when he bought Wednesday, did he not buy the ground with the club because his name is all over the f----in place. So what difference dose it make if on paper he sells it back to himself, he can't sell the club without a ground or ground without a club so why is everyone getting so fizzed up about it I knew there had to be someone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, rafterowl said: The problem with this site at the moment is that posters are stating opinions or rumours, often based upon nothing much. That is fine, but then others are using these opinions/rumours as fact. As far as I can tell nobody know owt, but you would never guess that reading some of the posts. The FACTS are that nobody knows anything about the hearing, the result of it, or the outcome that's going to be announced Once you keep that in the front of your mind you can read this thread and just laugh at people putting out rumours or trying to tell us what's going to happen or what they've heard Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, rafterowl said: The problem with this site at the moment is that posters are stating opinions or rumours, often based upon nothing much. That is fine, but then others are using these opinions/rumours as fact. As far as I can tell nobody know owt, but you would never guess that reading some of the posts. Yep take everything with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Plonk said: Billy I’m merely pointing out that sometimes the reason a club is struggling is because of poor managerial appointments ( ie the blades for around ten years and Leeds for God knows how long), and that a good manager will overcome other issues at the club, as both wilder and bielsa have. Put a poor manager into a poor situation and disaster will follow. Hey, our managers may not have been good appointments, is that because we dont have an owner who knows what hes doing or a board who know what they require in order to achieve the targets they have set the club? Whats the mechanism to appoint a manager, is there a plan to share? Who is responsible for these appointments, the manager himself or someone else? The manager may not work out but they dont appoint themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawowl Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Football fans forum where rumours and opinions are given. I need a lie down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, Derick Mills said: , he can't sell the club without a ground or ground without a club so why is everyone getting so fizzed up about it i think he could ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Derick Mills said: Very puzzled with all this ground selling, what did Chansiri buy when he bought Wednesday, did he not buy the ground with the club because his name is all over the f----in place. So what difference dose it make if on paper he sells it back to himself, he can't sell the club without a ground or ground without a club so why is everyone getting so fizzed up about it 1 minute ago, torryowl said: i think he could ....... Yes, Duchatelet did exactly that at Charlton. ESI bought the club, but Duchatelet still owns the stadium & training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I only come on here to read cos' a few people on here know more about this case than me. I probably could find this information elsewhere on the internet but at least you can have a laugh on here. But the verdict is another story. It's obvious most of the stuff about the verdict is just a hunch. It's just the way and timing it's been conducted is doing nothing but creating tension in our supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Mills Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, torryowl said: i think he could ....... Well that's good then he could sell it to his son this year to raise another 60 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 At the moment I come on here every 10 - 15 minutes to see if anything has happened and have been for over a week now. Most of it is rumours and made up stuff but I just know that the minute I stop visiting something will happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) It’s quite simple really. He, along with others, have identified a potential loophole to offset spending which aimed for success but ultimately failed inside a “system” that is inherently outdated and unfair. You can argue all day about the journey that got us here. You can speculate forever about the unknown details and the unknown outcome and eventual consequences but I think the motive is pretty clear. All the clubs who have gone for the loophole have spent lots of money and just missed promotion apart from Villa who arguably are in the biggest trouble of all involved if they do get relegated. They HAD to go up last year but even that may not have saved them IF they do come back down but the crime may have been worth the punishment. You could actually argue ironically that we should have done a Wolves and properly gone for it to compete with the parachute payment clubs. Edited July 15, 2020 by sonofbert2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: I like the bits in bold, did you know Chansiri and Carlos are bezzy mates? I mean "bezzy mates" still in regular contact. No, but I’m not surprised I also don’t understand your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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