SYP and SAG

[RichSheffWeds]

Will be cacking themselves over the Man City game.

 

Lets hope they use common sense and we can have a big sell out crowd, great atmosphere without them spoiling it with unreasonable restrictions. 

Edited January 27, 2020 by RichSheffWeds

[Blatter]

1 minute ago, RichSheffWeds said:

Will be cacking themselves over the Man City game.

 

Lets hope they use common sense and we can have a big sell out crowd, great atmosphere without these clowns spoiling it with unreasonable restrictions. 

Dream on.

[Bouncing Owl]

We have 39814 seats but can’t see us being allowed to sell more than 34k.

[bigdan2003]

Unless they sort this Leppings lane stuff out, then North Stand won’t be allowed to sell out. 
 

 

[Guest mkowl]

Was talking to a new client earlier today, was an ex copper and used to be Matchday Commander for games south of the river in London so Charlton, Millwall. Mentioned what SYP were like these days and he laughed. 

 

Fave story was how the Palace ultras wanted to walk down the road at Millwall. Said fine but we aren't escorting you this time. They went erm ok and chose the walk of shame 

[Aingarth]

Need to get SUFC box holders off the SAG before there is any chance of fairness. 

[Hitcat]

Coincidentally, SYP and SAG is the over 75s swingers club I'm a member of.

[S36 OWL]

1 hour ago, RichSheffWeds said:

Will be cacking themselves over the Man City game.

 

Lets hope they use common sense and we can have a big sell out crowd, great atmosphere without them spoiling it with unreasonable restrictions. 

 

Dont hold your breath , they couldnt oprganise a pi55 up in a brewery

[Tudders]

As far as i’m aware, SYP have made decisions based on expert advice that they sought and duly received. The whole North stand/Leppings Lane exit policy is all due to the aforementioned advice.

 

 If they go against the advice-as a collective or as an individual match commander-and something happens they’ll be at the very least criticised/potentially sacked or prosecuted.

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

Not sure what else they can do? 

[happy bunny]

4 hours ago, Tudders said:

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

 

 

Good grief

[Ever the pessimist]

6 hours ago, Tudders said:

As far as i’m aware, SYP have made decisions based on expert advice that they sought and duly received. The whole North stand/Leppings Lane exit policy is all due to the aforementioned advice.

 

 If they go against the advice-as a collective or as an individual match commander-and something happens they’ll be at the very least criticised/potentially sacked or prosecuted.

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

Not sure what else they can do? 

The expert advice was from a report they commissioned by a student at university using the rather atypical derby game as the sample. Forgive my cynicism but I cannot help but suspect the findings were what SYP wanted them to be.

Nobody can convince me that egress to LL is more problematic than pigs going onto bramall Lane.

[Mr. Tom]

Can’t even remember the last time I saw any serious pointing at S6, much less anything even approaching ‘bother’.

 

Obviously we’re just biding our time though, and have all sworn a solemn pact to keep our powder dry 30+ years for any chance to go bananas.

 

The minute SYP/SAG relax their sphincters one iota, some depressed Luton fan is getting a Zimmer frame right in the kisser.

 

FFS.

 

 

Edited January 28, 2020 by Mr. Tom

[paul92vr6]

7 hours ago, Tudders said:

As far as i’m aware, SYP have made decisions based on expert advice that they sought and duly received. The whole North stand/Leppings Lane exit policy is all due to the aforementioned advice.

 

 If they go against the advice-as a collective or as an individual match commander-and something happens they’ll be at the very least criticised/potentially sacked or prosecuted.

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

Not sure what else they can do? 

Morning Commander

[Belfast Owl 2]

Plenty of SAG members should be serving time for the poo they pull.

 

They need prosecuted.

[Aingarth]

7 hours ago, Tudders said:

As far as i’m aware, SYP have made decisions based on expert advice that they sought and duly received. The whole North stand/Leppings Lane exit policy is all due to the aforementioned advice.

 

 If they go against the advice-as a collective or as an individual match commander-and something happens they’ll be at the very least criticised/potentially sacked or prosecuted.

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

Not sure what else they can do? 

I have a copy of the report and, as others have said, it was intriguing and all to do with how the SYP messed up dealing with handbags after the Sheffield United game at Hillsborough in April 2019 when they totally inflamed something which should and could have been well controlled. The report was commissioned as a way of taking the blame away from SYP and finding another reason. If the same principles were applied to most grounds, including Bramall Lane, then football crowds across the country would be almost halved. It is obviously because SYP can’t cope and are worried about any repeat of 30 years ago. 
Since then, the primary factors of barriers to the pitch and across areas have all been removed and the stadium has all seats. 
Since then, there have been 2 semi finals, one final replay and Euro 96. 
Since then, Liverpool have played at Hillsborough 11 times, all without incident. 
The restrictions on Leppings Lane entry/exit for home supporters make it quite dangerous in the North Stand at the end of the match so have added a safety problem previously not there there. The North was designed for entry and ext East and West. And we end up mixing with visitors when we walk back to Leppings Lane anyway. 
In My opinion, the restrictions are unsafe and based on an extremely flawed report. 

[HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU]

7 hours ago, Tudders said:

As far as i’m aware, SYP have made decisions based on expert advice that they sought and duly received. The whole North stand/Leppings Lane exit policy is all due to the aforementioned advice.

 

 If they go against the advice-as a collective or as an individual match commander-and something happens they’ll be at the very least criticised/potentially sacked or prosecuted.

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

Not sure what else they can do? 

Expert advice?

 

 

[Plonk]

8 hours ago, Tudders said:

As far as i’m aware, SYP have made decisions based on expert advice that they sought and duly received. The whole North stand/Leppings Lane exit policy is all due to the aforementioned advice.

 

 If they go against the advice-as a collective or as an individual match commander-and something happens they’ll be at the very least criticised/potentially sacked or prosecuted.

 

If you were in their position, would you put your job on the line to appease a section of mildly inconvenienced fans in relation to exiting the ground or the slightly reduced capacity?
 

Not sure what else they can do? 

Tudders have you even read the report? I have, and it’s the biggest, most I’ll thought out pile of misinformed crap I have ever read. I bet when it came back the cop who had commissioned it must have sat with his head in hands. His choice? Go to his boss and say I’ve wasted several thousand pounds of tax payers money on this pile of poo, or do what the police always do. Pretend it’s good ( because it’s their idea) and carry on regardless despite the cost to everyone else. 

[Tudders]

1 hour ago, Plonk said:

Tudders have you even read the report? I have, and it’s the biggest, most I’ll thought out pile of misinformed crap I have ever read. I bet when it came back the cop who had commissioned it must have sat with his head in hands. His choice? Go to his boss and say I’ve wasted several thousand pounds of tax payers money on this pile of poo, or do what the police always do. Pretend it’s good ( because it’s their idea) and carry on regardless despite the cost to everyone else. 

I’m not saying I agree with the report, all I’m saying is that in the days where everyone seems to be held accountable,often trial by social media and witch hunts seem commonplace, I don’t blame the SYP powers that be for getting an independent assessment and following those guidelines.
 

Whatever those guidelines stated-whether the officer who requested the report agrees or not personally-whether the public are up in arms about it or not- the guidelines will be followed to bring protection from the inevitable witch hunt should anything ever go wrong. 

Edited January 28, 2020 by Tudders

[Guest The Claw]

odear!

[room0035]

My question still stands that no one seem to be able to answer who are SAG, as they seem to decide everything with the ground but no one seem to know who any of them are????

 

Is it an actual committee of people, one person or a computer programme decided on real life situations based on a match that happened 30 years ago not involving any teams from Sheffield.