0114 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 He mostly played 442 last season. I’d like to think we can go and get a win at Huddersfield playing 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) I think Hutchinson is far and away our best Defensive Midfielder so he would start every time for me but with Hutch you have to factor disciplinary and fitness issues. I think long term Monk will have to look for a replacement? Bannan is as much as I rate him our biggest problem in the midfield conundrum. When he plays there is a tendency to play everything through him so opposition managers tend to single him out as someone to stop first and foremost. This means he tends to come deeper and deeper to get the ball meaning he's stepping on Hutchinson's toes and further and further away from where we want him to be. It's been argued that we've played better when he has been unavailable? Long term I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved on to facilitate a fresh approach? Shoehorning Reach into the side is also a problem. I've been a critic of Reach over the years and I've been negged to death by the experts on here. Yet he here is in his fourth season at the club and we're nowhere near to knowing what his best position is? He's capable of producing the goods granted but he's also capable of doing a good impression of the invisible man when he's on the pitch too. Ultimately it comes down to whether we play a three or a four. Luongo and Harris for me need to be looked at as the answer both in the immediate and long term future. Seasoned championship players who are coming into their prime. For Monk to be succesful in the short term he has to get the best out of the old guard but it's more likely long term success will be achieved with new players and a new approach? Edited September 8, 2019 by Great Big Galaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 away from home depending upon the opposition and mostly 4-3-3 at home. Against Huddersfield I'd go with 4-2-3-1, hopefully being strong defensively, frustrating them and getting some joy on the counter attack and out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 It's the big white beard I suppose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Think one of our problems when we play 1 up front is the way we set up. We don’t get enough support to Fletcher. I’d like to see more of a 4-3-3 like Liverpool play. Wide forwards stay high, Bannan can drift to the left and find a bit more space, Lee can make late runs into the box from a deeper position which is his best attribute. Id put Murphy in for FF while he’s obviously suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Westwood Iorfa Lees Borner Palmer Hutch Luongo Murphy Lee Harris Fletcher 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey9 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, paulrs said: Bruce mostly played 4-4-2 last season and it worked really well. So if Monk played 4-4-2 at Birmingham too then it seems perfectly logical to try it. Since last season the midfield options are improved with Lee returning and Luongo signing. My main doubt with a 4-4-2 would be a partner that works well with Fletcher. In theory the Rhodes of old would be perfect but personally I think he’s a busted flush. Winnall is another one well suited but has looked very sluggish since his injury. Last season we had Hooper, Joao and Matias as options, but no longer. Whats Hooper up to these days...??? Was sat next to him having hair cut on Friday in Duffield, so looks like hes still not got a club. Maybe we could get him back on a rolling contract hes the link we have been missing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilnhurstowl Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 334 just to turn things round abit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 To make 4-3-3 work, with Fletcher at the sharp end, we need to get our wide men closer to him. The trouble is, it’s not their natural game, and they don’t think like strikers. Usually in such a system, one of the wide players would actually be a striker. Now we don’t have Joao, only Forestieri could probably operate in that role, but he won’t be available for a while. Ideally you have an interchangeable front three, like Liverpool use. To be fair, I thought we might have brought in a young wide attacker during the summer, perhaps on loan, but I’m not sure it was ever on the clubs agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 hours ago, paulrs said: Bruce mostly played 4-4-2 last season and it worked really well. So if Monk played 4-4-2 at Birmingham too then it seems perfectly logical to try it. Since last season the midfield options are improved with Lee returning and Luongo signing. My main doubt with a 4-4-2 would be a partner that works well with Fletcher. In theory the Rhodes of old would be perfect but personally I think he’s a busted flush. Winnall is another one well suited but has looked very sluggish since his injury. Last season we had Hooper, Joao and Matias as options, but no longer. Whats Hooper up to these days...??? Waiting for the next club stupid enough to write a contract promising to pay his medical treatment bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 hours ago, paulrs said: Whats Hooper up to these days...??? Nothing at all Like most of his time with us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Westwood Iorfa Lees Borner Fox Hutchinson Harris Loungo/Lee Bannan Reach Fletcher I think Monk will have Hutchinson protecting the back four, I think he will flood the midfield leaving just Fletcher up front at times, but he will aim to break on the wings with Harris and Reach, and with either Loungo or Lee getting forward to support. Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Prefer 433/4231 but we are weak at lb and ff is banned so would consider wing backs with harris in a free role for now Wwood Iorfa lees borner Moses luongo bannan reach lee fletch harris Otherwise: Wwood Iorfa lees borner fox Bannan luongo lee Reach fletch harris With reach n harris swapping if ineffective, murphy and hutch subs now Edited September 8, 2019 by Ash77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, paulrs said: Whats Hooper up to these days...??? On an par with other golfers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Costello 77 said: I think he'll go 433 against Huddersfield.. Anyone think differently? he'll have to pull bullen in and get to know what he knows and has tried, then add anyone trying their rocks off in training (at least) to the squad. you'd think caution might be his first thought, so a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, dorian gray said: he'll have to pull bullen in and get to know what he knows and has tried, then add anyone trying their rocks off in training (at least) to the squad. you'd think caution might be his first thought, so a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1. We need to be compact..yes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: We need to be compact..yes.. I would imagine he won't want to open his account with a defeat, and if we are down he'll look to throw the kitchen sink at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: I would imagine he won't want to open his account with a defeat, and if we are down he'll look to throw the kitchen sink at it. It's hard to know..he had high standard players at Swansea that could make a 433 work.. it'll be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: It's hard to know..he had high standard players at Swansea that could make a 433 work.. it'll be interesting put yourself in the NEW manager's shoes at any club, he'll not wanna lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, dorian gray said: put yourself in the NEW manager's shoes at any club, he'll not wanna lose. Of course not..433 works if you're attacking or defending tho.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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