Holmowl Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Blatter said: 64 appearances in just short of four seasons really isn’t a very good record. The Carlos regime probably didn’t help him but he’s been available for less than half the games. I’d love to see him go on a scoring run this season, in fact he owes us that, but at 31 and in the club’s circumstances it’s hard to imagine No. 83 apps in 3 and 1/2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Costello 77 said: The manager? Wtf are you on about Birley? You're getting worse man. Bruce won't want to keep him Be stupid to keep him and I'm sure Bruce agrees. We need to cut the wage bill and people are advocating keeping someone who hasn't played for 14 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, LSOwls said: Carlos & Jos were never managers; they were 'head coach'. The senior doctor reported directly in Katrien; not sure if that's change since Bruce took charge. Bruce is a manager not a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Bruce won't want to keep him Be stupid to keep him and I'm sure Bruce agrees. We need to cut the wage bill and people are advocating keeping someone who hasn't played for 14 months. He's said that he's a top quality player and pledged patience and time... same for Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hirst1867 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Bruce won't want to keep him Be stupid to keep him and I'm sure Bruce agrees. We need to cut the wage bill and people are advocating keeping someone who hasn't played for 14 months. If (and it's very likely) we are in an embargo we'd actually be stupid not to renew his contract. Because we could only bring someone in on 75% of his wages, with no transfer fee. He's just returning to fitness, we've paid his wages while hes been out (through no fault of his own), he's definitely one of our top players when fit. And you want to bin him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Costello 77 said: He's said that he's a top quality player and pledged patience and time... same for Lee. To be fair what else would he say “he’s a bit of a lazy waster and can’t wait to get him off the wage bill” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, torres said: To be fair what else would he say “he’s a bit of a lazy waster and can’t wait to get him off the wage bill” Why would he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, LSOwls said: Carlos & Jos were never managers; they were 'head coach'. The senior doctor reported directly in Katrien; not sure if that's change since Bruce took charge. according to chansiri in his own words he said carlos is /was our manager not head coach , all player signings were given a list by carlos (from jan 2016 onwards)and carlos had final say over who they signed, the only thing carlos didn't do was decide wages/contracts . 1 things for sure steve bruce wont sign 20 players and only get 1 or 2 of them right . he came in as head coach without much or any say on players ie had nothing to do with joao,wallace,hooper,bannan,forestieri or hunt until chansiri disbanded the committee ire paul senior,glen roeder etc. steve bruce don't need any of that as he has endless contacts in the game just like he called rafa and got the 2 in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Why would he say that? Like I said he isn’t going to say that, he’s going to give some generic answer that you’ve gullibly taken as gospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, torres said: Like I said he isn’t going to say that, he’s going to give some generic answer that you’ve gullibly taken as gospel Why are you telling me things that he isn't going to say? I'm confused now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 When Hooper & Lee get to the summer & they become free agents then it’s unlikely they’ll be inundated with offers in their current state. The club could offer to get them fit with the agreement we get first refusal if/when they get fit. This way we’re not paying during their rehab but we’re being as helpful as we can to two players who have been great servants to us in recent seasons whilst keeping our options open. There’s no time limit on this arrangement so we don’t have to rush to a decision. Abdi, Boyd, Jones et al should be sacked off as soon as though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said: Nice visual representation of 80% of the transfers undertaken in the last 4 seasons. That split second when you're directly over the centre of the airbag, but still travelling upwards....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: You clearly believe he is a lazy waster, yet here we are my offer on the table and no response. Not willing to put your money where your opinion is? I honestly don’t have the faintest Idea what you are babbling on about. Type it again without sipping Brasso and I’ll get back to you 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said: When Hooper & Lee get to the summer & they become free agents then it’s unlikely they’ll be inundated with offers in their current state. The club could offer to get them fit with the agreement we get first refusal if/when they get fit. This way we’re not paying during their rehab but we’re being as helpful as we can to two players who have been great servants to us in recent seasons whilst keeping our options open. There’s no time limit on this arrangement so we don’t have to rush to a decision. Abdi, Boyd, Jones et al should be sacked off as soon as though. I once did a fart like that after Christmas dinner gluttony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Hirst1867 said: If (and it's very likely) we are in an embargo we'd actually be stupid not to renew his contract. Because we could only bring someone in on 75% of his wages, with no transfer fee. He's just returning to fitness, we've paid his wages while hes been out (through no fault of his own), he's definitely one of our top players when fit. And you want to bin him?? Are we allowed to renew his contract? Thought that was covered by the embargo too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, torres said: I honestly don’t have the faintest Idea what you are babbling on about. Type it again without sipping Brasso and I’ll get back to you What are you sad about Torres? I still haven't worked out why you're telling me things that SB hasn't said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Hirst1867 said: If (and it's very likely) we are in an embargo we'd actually be stupid not to renew his contract. Because we could only bring someone in on 75% of his wages, with no transfer fee. He's just returning to fitness, we've paid his wages while hes been out (through no fault of his own), he's definitely one of our top players when fit. And you want to bin him?? He hasn't played for 14 months. Before he was injured I'd agree he's one of our best players, but there is no guarantee he is now. Get rid at first opportunity we can, which happens to be this summer. He, along with Lee, have to go. With regret, but with dignity too before it gets really ugly for them/us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Hirst1867 said: If (and it's very likely) we are in an embargo we'd actually be stupid not to renew his contract. Because we could only bring someone in on 75% of his wages, with no transfer fee. He's just returning to fitness, we've paid his wages while hes been out (through no fault of his own), he's definitely one of our top players when fit. And you want to bin him?? Does anyone know if you can renew a contract when under embargo? Isn’t it technically (re)signing a player? Don’t know the answer just curious as it puts a different complexion on the out of contract players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Can’t see Hooper & Lee getting new contracts, whether they are reduced terms or ‘pay as you play’ deals. They’ve been out such a long time with various injuries and they’ve had a number of operations. Like I’ve said and many others have said, it is a real shame and a body blow to us as a club and the players themselves. They have definitely been our most intelligent players and have been pivotal to our success over 2/3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Hirst1867 said: Sounds like most of you lot would have got rid of David Hirst after the Steve Bould tackle What and miss out on his son . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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